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Turning the Democratic Party away from a staunch pro-choice position has not been an easy task. When Tom Roemer, a former congressman from Indiana, campaigned to become chairman of the Democratic National Committee, his platform included "tolerance of differing views on abortion,” Boyer reports.

I don't know why it should be difficult, they lie about everything!

1 posted on 11/15/2005 5:09:09 PM PST by wagglebee
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Looks like the parties are starting to switch polarity. Democrats are starting to act more like Republicans and vice-versa.


2 posted on 11/15/2005 5:10:39 PM PST by Prime Choice (Never excuse treason as "dissent.")
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The Democrats are so intent on unseating Republicans in Congress next year that they’re even moderating their strong pro-choice stance on abortion.

Impossible. See my tagline.

3 posted on 11/15/2005 5:11:20 PM PST by A. Pole (For today's Democrats abortion and "gay marriage" are more important that the whole New Deal legacy.)
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They have figured out that they are the party of Death. Only pro death candidates pass Evil Dum muster.

some can see the handwriting on the wall.

4 posted on 11/15/2005 5:13:00 PM PST by marty60
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Right. Ignore their actions for the last 30 years, if you elect they will change after they win! HONEST they will! They PROMISE you they will.


5 posted on 11/15/2005 5:18:11 PM PST by MNJohnnie (100% of Islamic Terrorists disapprove of the job President Bush is doing)
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1) If nominating a Justice that may overturn R v W on Constitutional basis is such a losing issue, why are the Democrats "moderating" their tolerance on the issue of abortion?

2) I'd love to be proven wrong, but my gut instinct is that casey will say what is necessary to get elected then vote almost down the line against the pro-life position. If so, then he made a deal with the Democrats to do so, this is why they support him, and so would mean they have NOT moderated their views. Only once again lied to the people. Salazar claimed one thing, did another. Casey is likely in that mold. I'd love to be wrong, love to have him more like his father, I just sincerely doubt the Democrats have allowed someone with real convictions on pro-Life pro-Faith issues to run.


6 posted on 11/15/2005 5:18:57 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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A couple weeks ago Howard Dean was on Hardball. Matthews asked him about abortion, all Dean would say was, "the Dim party is pro-choice". He wouldn't say pro-abortion. Matthews tried to get him to and he wouldn't; even Matthews was surprised.


7 posted on 11/15/2005 5:21:45 PM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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If there are Democrats running with a pro life message, this might indicate that we are winning, and should continue to apply the pressure. But never underestimate the ability of a Democrat to say or do anything to get elected to office.


9 posted on 11/15/2005 5:23:17 PM PST by SaveTheChief ("I can't wait until I'm old enough to feel ways about stuff." - Phillip J. Fry)
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Casey will be a Pro Life senator just like Kennedy, Kerry, Durbin, Mikulski, Leahey and the rest of the Catholic Senators, i.e., I am personally against abortion but I can not force my views on anybody else. That is just like saying that I am against High taxes but I can't force my views on anybody else therefore I must raise your taxes to redistribute your income.

Let's face Santorum was far from perfect but he is a much better alternative to Casey.

santorum will offset the Likes of Snow, Collins, chaffee, et. al.


10 posted on 11/15/2005 5:25:03 PM PST by petkus
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You mean the democrats are putting up a man who is out of the "mainstream"? Why would they do that when according to the polls they like to cite most Americans are pro-choice?
13 posted on 11/15/2005 5:34:33 PM PST by street_lawyer
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Life is so much easier when you don't have any of those pesky core values to worry about.


14 posted on 11/15/2005 5:37:34 PM PST by kennedy ("Why would I listen to losers?")
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Robert Casey, Sr. was denied a chance to espouse pro-life values at the 1992 Democrat's National Convention. (Irony: That was the same year that William Weld was allowed to speak in favor of "pro-choice" at the Republican National Convention!)

The Casey family seems honestly pro-life.

http://www.catholicherald.com/eddesk/00ed/ed000824.htm


15 posted on 11/15/2005 5:45:46 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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When Dean took the reins, he said the reason Democrats lost elections was that they couldn't get their message to the people.

Their message will change, never their stance.

17 posted on 11/15/2005 6:16:34 PM PST by impatient
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It's window dressing, nothing more.


20 posted on 11/15/2005 7:28:56 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Sam Alito Deserves To Be Confirmed)
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If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with your bullshit.


22 posted on 11/15/2005 8:18:13 PM PST by satchmodog9 ( Seventy million spent on the lefts Christmas present and all they got was a Scooter)
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Of course the Rats are misrepresenting their real position. But this reminds me of the Barbara Mandrell song that said, "I was country, when country wasn't cool."

Nixon ran to the right in the primary and ran to the middle in the general election. Could it be that the Democrats are really admitting the truth: opposition to abortion is NOT an extremist view in America after all


23 posted on 11/15/2005 8:19:32 PM PST by RatRipper
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The Democrats are so intent on unseating Republicans in Congress next year that they’re even moderating their strong pro-choice stance on abortion.

Correction: their strong PRO-ABORTION stance on abortion.

25 posted on 11/15/2005 8:28:21 PM PST by stillonaroll
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Buy Rick's book:



27 posted on 11/15/2005 8:36:58 PM PST by Antoninus (Hillary smiles whenever a Freeper trashes Rick Santorum)
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I think I need a BC powder now.


30 posted on 11/15/2005 9:09:47 PM PST by Liberty Valance (T for Texas and T for Tennessee)
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"I, for one, respect those who believe with all their hearts and conscience that there are no circumstances under which any abortion should ever be available.”

Ah. There's the lie.

Let's see if I can put this as succinctly as possible:

THERE IS NO LIE THAT THE LEFT WON'T TELL IN ORDER TO REGAIN POWER.

THERE IS NO DECEPTION THEY WILL NOT PERPETRATE TO REGAIN POWER.

THERE IS NO CHEAT THEY WON'T SCAM IN ORDER TO REGAIN POWER.

THERE IS NO CRIME OF MAN OR GOD THAT THEY WON'T COMMIT IN ORDER TO REGAIN POWER.

THEY ARE LIARS, CHEATS AND THIEVES WITH NO ETHICS, SCRUPLES, MORALS OR HONOR.

If abortion was so unimportant to them, it wouldn't have been the single most important litmus test faced by conservative judicial nominees for the past 30 years, they wouldn't have butchered 50 *MILLION* babies in the womb and wouldn't have created whole INDUSTRIES dedicated to the murdering of innocent AMERICAN CITIZENS!!!!

Don't kid yourself anybody. They'll NEVER give up abortion as the driving force of their party. Along with environmental communism, discrimination (racism/sexism), AND HATING EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS GRAET COUNTRY, that's the only thing that holds that party of freak-shows together. Without those four things, the whole thing would collapse of its own weight.

Godspeed

31 posted on 11/15/2005 9:10:41 PM PST by America's Resolve (I've become a 'single issue voter' for 06 and 08. My issue is illegal immigration!)
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...until January 2007.


32 posted on 11/15/2005 9:18:46 PM PST by dr_who_2
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