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To: StarCMC
Taxi drivers? Since when??

Since 2001. I'm referring to, for example, Sayed Abassin a taxi drivers held for two years and released, and his friend (and also a taxi driver) Wazir Muhammad, who had gone to a checkpoint to ask about Mr. Abassin (and was also detained for two years without trial, IIRC).

Or Dilawar...the 22-year-old taxi driver who was died in December 2002 while being interrogated (see, for example, http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/08/08/news/abuse.php). It's not like the administration or military deny these detentions! The information comes from their own reports! You can go to the DoD website and search and sift through and find SOME of the details on the detainees' hearings, etc.

But I know there are those on FR who would rather pretend that these things don't happen, and want to shut out any reality... but I think that's stupid. We have to deal with reality, and reality includes the detention of some who are innocent.

Have you been drinking the koolaid at DU????

Sorry...I don't go to DU. I find it a rather distasteful place. Besides, I'd rather have a Sam Adams or Pitch Black Mt. Dew.

You see...I recall what this country was founded upon, and it was just the sort of abuses advocated here that were the sparks for casting off British rule. Does anyone here think that Sam Adams or Thomas Jefferson or George Mason or James Madison would advocate holding prisoners for years without trial?!?

109 posted on 11/15/2005 8:41:41 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

Sorry - I have a hard time beleiveing that they were JUST taxi drivers. Sort of like calling the 911 Terrorists "airline passengers."


110 posted on 11/15/2005 8:47:45 PM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: Gondring; fallujah-nuker

"Does anyone here think that Sam Adams or Thomas Jefferson or George Mason or James Madison would advocate holding prisoners for years without trial?!?"

Nope. Being unlawful combatants, which are worse than pirates, the above individuals would've had them deported or executed within days.


111 posted on 11/15/2005 8:54:22 PM PST by neutronsgalore (Waffling George has failed to control the borders...now it's Bouncing Betty's turn.)
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To: Gondring

"Does anyone here think that Sam Adams or Thomas Jefferson or George Mason or James Madison would advocate holding prisoners for years without trial?!?"

During war? YES.


117 posted on 11/15/2005 10:51:41 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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