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Dell admits poor competition with iPod
iponn ^ | 11/15/2005

Posted on 11/15/2005 1:18:38 PM PST by Panerai

Dell CFO Jim Schneider today said that his company is far behind Apple in the digital music market, adding that "we're obviously not competing very well." Schneider said "Apple has come out with a nice product and I think it's really turned their company around," when responding to analysts' questions regarding Dell's earnings. Dell last week said that third-quarter profit was down 28 percent, as sales to U.S. consumers dropped and business in the United Kingdom brought disappointment to the company, according to a report from Reuters. Dell also issued a sales forecast that reportedly left some analysts wondering if the company has lost the growth momentum it has had in recent years.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: apple; dell; dellishell; ipod; itunes; lowqualitycrap; mac; videoipod; windows
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1 posted on 11/15/2005 1:18:39 PM PST by Panerai
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To: Panerai

Michael Dell is an idiot and wannabe Steve Jobs.

He's driving Dell into the ground trying to compete with Apple on something so far out of Dell's market it's not even funny.


2 posted on 11/15/2005 1:20:05 PM PST by x5452
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To: Panerai

The electronis equivalent of Cabbage Patch Dolls. A fine product, but the market will saturate.


3 posted on 11/15/2005 1:20:48 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: js1138
A fine product, but the market will saturate.

I think that's what the said about televisions, too.
4 posted on 11/15/2005 1:23:23 PM PST by BikerNYC (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: x5452
Michael Dell is an idiot and wannabe Steve Jobs.

Isn't he one of the few Republicans in the tech world?

5 posted on 11/15/2005 1:23:33 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: js1138; x5452

When iPods and other work-alikes hit near sturation point in a couple years(months?) they'll be giveaway items in cereal boxes and Apple will be back to where they were and Dell will still be here..........


6 posted on 11/15/2005 1:24:34 PM PST by Red Badger (United States Marine Corps, Saving France's Bacon Since 1775.............)
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To: BikerNYC

That was radios.......


7 posted on 11/15/2005 1:25:08 PM PST by Red Badger (United States Marine Corps, Saving France's Bacon Since 1775.............)
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To: Panerai
"Dell last week said that third-quarter profit was down 28 percent, as sales to U.S. consumers dropped and business in the United Kingdom brought disappointment to the company"

Peerhaps that is the same disappointment felt by American consumers that have to deal with Dell Customer or Technical support.
8 posted on 11/15/2005 1:26:01 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: x5452
Well said! Dell should stick to computers and servers. They have no business trying to compete for digital music services. This is what happened to H-P when they tried to become like Dell instead of focusing on their printers.

IMO Ipods suck anyway....Iriver and Rio beats it hands down.

9 posted on 11/15/2005 1:26:02 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Panerai
Does anyone use the MP3 player put out by SanDisk?
It's all flash memory and no hard drive. I've used Sandisk flash drives for quite a while.

Anyone with any experience with it? I'm thinking of putting the 1GB version on my birthday/Christmas wish list.

TS
I'll mostly be listening to 60-year-old podcasts, instead of using my Palm.

10 posted on 11/15/2005 1:26:08 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (By defiintion, we cannot have Consensus until you agree with me.)
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To: Red Badger

Which they ended up putting into cars?


11 posted on 11/15/2005 1:26:21 PM PST by BikerNYC (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: Red Badger
"they'll be giveaway items in cereal boxes" - you seem to ignore the fact that the ipod continues to innovate and stay on top of the newest technology. Sure they did not invent the music store, but they developed the best and easiest to use. There were pod-casts and video-casts, but those became successful only once ITMS added them.
12 posted on 11/15/2005 1:28:53 PM PST by Panerai
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To: x5452
He's driving Dell into the ground trying to compete with Apple on something so far out of Dell's market it's not even funny.

I don't know enough about the topic to comment, but one thing piqued my interest: did the expansion into the United Kingdom involve onerous tarrifs in order to compete?

13 posted on 11/15/2005 1:32:42 PM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: BikerNYC
I think that's what the said about televisions, too.

There's always a small market for pocket televisions. But iPods are the kind of thing that will be selling for $25 in a few years. They won't be as good as Apple's but they will be $25.

Another thing happening is the increasing buiness of DRM. I don't think iPods will survive if people really have to pay 99 cents for every song. I don't know how this will work out.

I have a son-in-law who just started out as a recording engineer. I am glad he got into spoken word instead of music. He does commercials, subtitles and other technical stuff. The music industry is the pits right now.

14 posted on 11/15/2005 1:33:14 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: x5452

"Michael Dell is an idiot..."

If I could have one tenth his bank balance, I'd gladly be ten times the idiot.


15 posted on 11/15/2005 1:33:49 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA (")
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To: Publius6961

Apple is paying a lot higher fees for music in europe in general and EU laws have complicated it.


16 posted on 11/15/2005 1:34:49 PM PST by x5452
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To: Panerai
Dude, iPods will live forever. Possibilities are inexhaustible. Wait till they have them in Homer Simpson, Shrek and shoe models!


17 posted on 11/15/2005 1:35:20 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("in the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: Panerai

Lesseehere ... with a miniscule product sample, I find:

- My iPod Shuffle works fine. I mean, it just plain works. Slick, light, tiny, does exactly what I want it to. No extranious cables, no fiddling. Took a geologic recording of the Indonesian tsunami last December to blow out the headphones, which were promptly replace in person for free at the local Apple store.

- My Dell Inspiron crapped out 6 times, 5 times the same way. 5 multi-day mailings to Dell for repair resulted in short-lived fixes, soon with repeat problems. A desperate plea for next-day on-site repair went unheeded by the Indian tech support, insisting I had to mail it back for repair THEN be _allowed_ to sign up for an on-site service plan. Eventually getting American tech support, he admitted the design was rediculous and suggested I not (wink wink) go to a very specific website for product repair details. I finally took it apart & put it back together (nothing detailed or complicated) myself and it worked ever since ... if you can call heavy, hot, and ill-tempered "working".

Awright, a minimal MP3 player vs. a full-featured laptop is not a fair comparison. Nonetheless, guess which manufacturer I'll buy from again ... and which I won't.


18 posted on 11/15/2005 1:35:29 PM PST by ctdonath2
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Yeah, that's why they went out of business.


19 posted on 11/15/2005 1:35:32 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Dell is a basic business guy who started selling build to order computers out of his dorm room. There's no rocket science there.

He genericized the business Jobs started and he thinks he's a genius for having done so. He's been badmouthing Apple since Jobs returned, and the whole while Apple has been doing better and better and Dell worse and worse.


20 posted on 11/15/2005 1:37:07 PM PST by x5452
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