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I'm not relying on Kerry, I'm noting the fact that the GOP resolution gave fodder to the opposition which they are very predictably exploiting. Other than yourself, I don't note anyone on this thread supporting the GOP resolution.

Please have a look at the list of names of good conservative GOP senators that appears on this thread who voted against the resolution, and tell me whether you prefer to identify with them, or with the Snows, Collins and Specters of the world who supported it.

Thanks for the conversation but we are both beating a dead horse so to speak because neither one of us is going to change how we view what happened.

I believe if the Republicans had not responded the Democrats would still have attacked the Republicans for simply voting down the Levin proposal with the same zeal.

IMHO it was better for the Republicans to rewrite the Levin proposal, eliminate the key objective of the Democrats (the time-lines), and force the Democrats to vote with the Republicans on the Frist Warner proposal essentially opposing time-lines. The vote on the Levin proposal was a major defeat for the Democrats. The Frist Warner proposal essentially changes nothing about how Bush will conduct the war but forced the Democrats to again, vote Yes for no time-lines. IMHO it was a brilliant maneuver by the Reps.

You see the GOP proposal as fodder to the opposition which they are very predictably exploiting. Exploiting means using to the greatest possible advantage. I say the Dems cannot exploit the GOP proposal because their primary objective, time lines, has been successfully blunted. They can, and will of course, use the MSM to try and convince the American people they have won something but since it hasn't changed how the war will be conducted 1 iota it is just spin.

Anyway, thanks again for the conversation and don't believe the polls, we are winning.