Posted on 11/14/2005 8:31:46 PM PST by vadkins
A completely unexpected interview tonight on the JerryDoyle Show. Jerry Doyle questioned Mr. David Hawkins about Able Danger, the financing of Al Qaeda, John Deutsch, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Gen.Wesley Clark, the destruction of Lt. Col. Shaffer, the marginalizing of Rep. Curt Weldon and something called the French-American Foundation. Really strange stuff. The audio (mp3) is below.
The permalink is here.
Please keep us up to date with this.
Is there a transcript anywhere? I can't get audio. :(
That said, I listened to the audio twice. The problem I had is he said near the end that it was a drill, the planes were supposed to be made to land, the passengers taken off. But someone flipped a switch and the drill was commandeered into an attack.
I can't imagine the military or the administration (whichever he was implying) putting civilians through such a drill. Other than that, interesting stuff.
No, I'm sorry, I haven't transcribed the audio and I don't know of another transcription.
It's not so much taboo..as BS..I work in the construction industry..I've seen hundreds of large buildings go from bare ground to steel frame to finished product...I was in the car when the first plane hit....I saw the second hit live...
I knew as soon as I saw the locations the planes hit that the towers would fall...to much weight above to support with a compromised steel structure...
The only place to go was down...the only way for the structure to NOT collapse upon itself( vs falling over sideways)....was to blow out the base...
Building arent trees or jenga towers...they dont tip over...they collapse downward upon themselves...
Since there's no /sarc tag on this post, I'm assuming that you actually believe this. If you do believe this, I am very sorry for you.
Yikes, I'm sorry I started this thread now. I figured that Jerry Doyle wouldn't put a total wacko on his show. Guess I figured wrong.
I've not been impressed with Jerry Doyle. He's got all the populist whimsy of Bill O'Reilly with half the sense.
Crim, the problem with your scenario is that the buildings fell at nearly the speed of freefall. Freefall would have been 6 seconds. Actual fall was 6.5 seconds. There was no absorbing of momentum, with concomitant slowing of the floor above, as one floor collapsed on another. For the lower floors to fail, weight would have had to be applied. Instead, they collapsed as if their legs fell out from under them. Nuff said.
From: David Hawkins
Thank you for posting the string on Able Danger with comments on the interview on the Jerry Doyle Show. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1522189/posts
Here below is the text of an e-mail sent to Congressman Weldon which may be of interest to your readers.
Regards,
David Hawkins
"New York disabled Able Danger with The French American Foundation
From: David Hawkins, Forensic Economist at Hawks' CAFE Foundation Scholar, Cambridge University; Forensic Economist at Hawks' CAFE Tel: (604) 542-0891 E-mail: david@eazeway.org http://www.canadafreepress.com/david-hawkins.htm
To: Congressman Weldon, Offices of Pennsylvania's Seventh Congressional District
Dear Congressman Weldon:
We would like to make a presentation to you and your Congressional colleagues on our allegation that .....
"New York disabled Able Danger with The French American Foundation"
We believe New York's French American Foundation (FAF) disabled Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer and his Able Danger military intelligence team in 2000 to clear the way for more sophisticated operations, including the one that took out Captain Gerald F. Deconto and the Pentagon's Navy Command Center at 9:37 am on 9/11. http://frenchamerican.org/prog_leaders/yllist.html
We are alleging that FAF's Young Leaders (YLs), insiders and affiliates, arranged for al-Qaeda cells to be trained and protected during 1999-2001 in America and directed them in a "false flag" operation on September 11, 2001.
We note that during September and October, 2003, FAF affiliate Sandy Berger, a former National Security Adviser to the FAF Young Leader, the former U.S. President, Bill Clinton, illegally removed highly classified terrorist-related documents from the National Archives and intentionally destroyed some of them. http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/08/berger.sentenced/
We suggest that these documents contained briefing notes detailing the actions required from FAF Young Leaders, including then U.S. President Bill Clinton and First Lady, Hillary Clinton, in the event of a successful "false flag" al-Qaeda operation and an FAF-sponsored coup on 9/11.
The FAF defense symposium (Airlie, Va., March 17-19, 2005), shows the FAF network links John Deutch, Raytheon director and disgraced former director of the C.I.A., to Francois Bujon d'Estaing, former French ambassador to the U.S. and now director of Thales. These men would have given FAF use of 'electronic hijacking' technologies needed to execute the 9/11 attacks with novice pilots. http://www.frenchamerican.org/pubs/2003_winter_newsletter.pdf
We allege FAF commanders took hijacked Flight 77 through a 220 degree turn, descended 7,000' in 2.5 minutes, flew at 540 mph through a side door of the Pentagon and, at 9:37 am on 9/11, killed Captain Deconto and disabled the U.S. Navy Command Center's response to hijacked Flight 93, just 41 minutes behind.
"Captain Gerald F. DeConto was director of current operations and plans branch of the U.S. Navy Command Center. He was organizing the Navy’s response to the World Trade Center attack when he died in the plane crash at the Pentagon." http://www.usmchq.com/usmcresources/facesmemorial/d.htm
We believe a treasonous group, including past and present Young Leaders of New York's French American Foundation, had motive (they ran UN Oil-for-Food scam), opportunity and net-centric weapons to run surveillance, establish targets and disable Able Danger and Pentagon counter-intelligence units. http://www.frenchamerican.org/prog_leaders/defense.html http://www.frenchamerican.org/pdf_files/gallis_symposium_report.pdf http://www.frenchamerican.org/pdf_files/defense_2005.pdf
Please have your office call me below if you are interested in a more detailed presentation.
Yours sincerely, David Hawkins, Forensic Economist at Hawks' CAFE Foundation Scholar, Cambridge University; Forensic Economist at Hawks' CAFE Tel: (604) 542-0891 E-mail: david@eazeway.org http://www.canadafreepress.com/david-hawkins.htm Notes and quotes for, "New York disabled Able Danger with The French American Foundation" "[French American] Foundation has organized seven symposia [to consider] ways in which French and American military [can] work together more efficiently." First symposium, "Mission, Force Structure and Professionalization" Second, “Operations other than war [9/11 terrorist attacks?].” Third, fourth, "Multinational operations, specifically Kosovo". Fifth, "Joint operations and technical interoperability". Sixth meeting, "Countering terrorism, at home and abroad". The FAF Defense Symposia buy, we allege, the support of political, military, business and academic leaders to overthrow of the American Republic. "Past participants [in FAF defense symposia] have included SACEUR General Clark, SACLANT General Sheehan, French Defense Minister Richard, French JCS Chairman General Kelche, former French JCS Chairman Admiral Lanxade, former US Army Chiefs of Staff General Meyer [Meyers? the war games maestro of 9/11] and General Sullivan, USAREUR Commander General Meigs, former French UNPROFOR Commander General Morillon, French Defense Institute (H.E.D.N.) President Guehenno, David Gompert of RAND Europe, US NATO Ambassador Vershbow, and French Ambassador to the U.S. Bujon de l’Estang. Senior participants at the November 2003 and March 2005 included French Chief of Defense Staff General Henri Bentegeat, SACEUR General James Jones, U.S. Ambassador to NATO Nicolas Burns, SACT Admiral Giambastiani, US EUCOM J-5 Major General Jeffrey Kohler and French Vice-Chief of Defense Staff Vice Admiral Alain Coldefy."
Do me a favor, watch the video of the buildings' collapse:
http://www.cnn.com/video/us/2001/09/11/trade.center.fall.affl.med.html
It is collapsing from the top down, not "free falling" as if the bottom were kicked out from underneath it.
Sorry to tell you...I SAW the collapse of both towers...I dont need you to tell me what I saw with my own eyes...
"nuff said" is a sign of dismissal....I find it HIGHLY insulting....unworthy of serious debate....as though you've allready come to some pre-decision to accept an unrealistic "demolition" theory...
Consider this:
For such a theory to be true:...IE..a CONTROLLED demolition ..I would have to throw out 27 years of heavy construction EXPERIENCE...
Let me illustrate the following points to show you how much of a farce it is ,what you propose...
#1...The is America...and New york specificly...not some third world nation that has no building codes, where buildings collapse for no reason, or at the slightest earth quake...
Are you aware of the number of building codes that apply to Iron work?
THOUSANDS...
Are you aware of the thousands upon thousands of man hours it take to raise of building of that nature from the ground?
Are you aware of the amount of building materials in place that COVER ALL of interior and exterior building structure?
Are you aware of the amount of man hours required for this material to BE REMOVED before a contolled demoltion can take place?
Are you aware that the ONLY people capable of doing a controlled demolition are PRIVATE CONTRACTORS?
Are you aware that these PRIVATE contractors employ HUNDREDS of people in order to achieve a controlled demolition?
Are you aware that it requires not only that all interior building materials to be removed..but also THOUSANDS of man hours to pre-position explosives in order to achieve a controlled demolition?
Are you aware that it takes WEEKS...and sometimes MONTHS to prepare a building for a controlled demolition...and hundreds of truck dumpsters full a material to be removed BEFORE and such demolition can take place?
Now speaking of the towers...
They took MILLIONS of man hours to construct....and it would take thousands of man huors to prepare such structures for a "controlled demolition' such as you describe...
It would literallly MONTHS to prepare such a stucture to be prepared...it would take HUNDREDS of workers...from a private contractor....and would require wholesale gutting of ALL of the interior building materials taking thousands man hours before such a demolition could take place, and hundreds of trucks loads of materials to be hauled away...
For your senario to be true...I must believe:
That all this required work was done by a private contractor, employing hundreds of workers, removing TONS of building materials, and placing demoliton charges to exposed structural steel, over the course of months...
There are MAYBE two or three contractors even capable of doing such work WORLD WIDE...and yet no one noticed them gone from PRE-schedualed work for months?
Not one person out of tens of thousands of daily workers ever noticed such an action to have taken place?..even when entire floors of office materials would have been required to have been removed before such a demolition?
No one noticed these hundreds of workers stringing MILES of primer cord to these TONS of explosives...that would take WEEKS to install..after previous weeks of demolition?
There is not one security tape showing all this required work to have taken place??...not one security gaurd, out of hundreds of gaurds...over three shifts of coverage ever reported such work taking place over the course of MONTHS???
Not one of these hundreds of required workers stepped forward to tell the truth?
No company reported the sale of TONS of explosives required to carry out such a demolition?
Not only is such a senario outside the realm of possibility....such beliefs are outside the realm of sanity....
You need a serious lesson in engineering...AND some serious therapy...
Serious as a heart attack.
Thanks for the free Psychic Friends Network reading.
You're welcome...I do shows on sunday...come early..
So...do you honestly think that entire crews of people, secreted in and out of the trade center, and positioned explosives, removed interior structures for access,...and hauled off the scrap without one single person seeing it?
If you think the WTC was demolished...care to share how you think it must have been done?
Expat, check it out. If you can believe the Towers were, I guess, taken down by us, its easier to see why he believes the stock market is manipulated by the government.
The truth is out there.
If he gets closer to the truth, we'll have to take him out.
Listening to Physics professors talk about structural stability is asking a Political Science prof who you should vote for. If a Physics prof designed a building it would fall down. If he tried to testify in court about structural integrity the judge would through him out. They don't work in the construction industry. If you want a expert in structures you can hire an registered professional civil or structural engineer. They're allowed to make building designs and sign drawings, and testify in court.
I'm a registered engineer (California & Canal Zone - Civil). I can tell you that if you pour jet fuel on concrete and steel, the concrete will explode and the steel will burn.
But but...steel doesnt burn....
DUH..yes it DOES!...that's why they HAVE to fire proof it by frickin CODE...
It was also shown the inadequate fire retardant application weakend the steel much sooner than it would have otherwise...
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.