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To: livius
I figure the reason the French insist on calling these muzzies "youths" and are so hesitant to stop them is because like the American left, in 1968 THEY were the rioters, and it was the defining moment of their lives, and they harbor way too much empathy for the kids doing the looting and burning.

They don't understand that it's a completely different ballgame. These kids don't want jobs, they don't want assimilation into the corrupt French society, they want to rape, pillage, burn, and murder, and they want to cut off French heads as trophies.

I will grant that French arrogance, snobbery, and racism created a situation in which these people were easy prey for Islamic Supremacism (which I call Islamism for short), but that's a done deal, a fait accompl/i>, if you will, and the only thing left for the French is to fight, adapt, or die.

p.s. I think I'm one of the few that uses Islamism as a short version of Islamic Supremacism, since most people prefer Islamofascism. I don't think it's so much a political movement as a racist movement and it reminds me of good old fashioned White Supremacism more than anything else.

108 posted on 11/15/2005 7:36:26 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (Islamism = Islamic Supremacism & = racist ideology, not political.)
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To: Great Caesars Ghost
because like the American left, in 1968 THEY were the rioters, and it was the defining moment of their lives,

That's very true. Of course, in 1968, it was privileged youth rioting just for the heck of it, because they wanted to smoke more dope, not go to school or not have to pay for it if they did, and not serve in their country's army. It was a sort of nihilistic but non-specific type of rioting where they wanted to raise a little hell but didn't really have a concrete objective. Of course, there were more radical leftists who did have a plan, but most of the 1968 crowd was just in it for the thrills. And it was, as you say, the high-point of their lives, and they think that the Muslim rioters are just the same, out there having some fun.

Thinking that these Islamists are don't have an objective, however, is just plain foolish. Maybe not every single rioter spends time listening to the preachings of some mad mullah, but the ravings of their "religious leaders" are in the ether, so to speak, and the rioters are being motivated by them whether they are conscious of it or not. And we all know what the objective of the mad mullahs is...

111 posted on 11/15/2005 3:25:08 PM PST by livius
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