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To: kenavi
You are re-writing history and the Bible.
The period of Muslim persecution of Jews, and other non-Moslems, is less that half the 4,000 years you cite.

Where did I say that the conflict had been Muslim v. Jew for the whole 4,000 years?? I did not state that the conflict had involved Muslims for that whole period. But the Bible celarly states in Genesis 21:8, that the conflict began on the day Isaac was weaned. Abraham held a banquet for the occasion and, at the banquet, Isaac's mother, Sarah, saw Ishmael mocking him. So, it began, in accordance with the words G_d Himself spoke regarding him and his descendants:

And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
-- Genesis 16:12 KJV
That was about 4,000 years ago and, today, it is Islam that names Abraham as it's Patriarch and claims the heritage of Ishmael, ans we see that, on the world stage that the mocking of Ishmael has grown to blood conflict and is not abated for the passing of these thousands of years.

I rewrite nothing. I change nothing. The Children of Ishmael have written in blood, and I lift not a finger to revise so much as a single letter. Ishmael's condemnation comes by his own hand.

94 posted on 11/16/2005 10:25:06 AM PST by HKMk23 (FOR SALE: French Army standard issue infantry rifles. Dropped once. Never fired.)
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To: HKMk23
And Simeon and Levi are cursed for their anger, Dan is a viper by the path, Joseph is a wild ass, and Benjamin is a ravenous wolf, and that's their father talking!

Jeremiah was descended from a people whom the Israelites were supposed to destroy, Ruth's lineage came from brazen paternal incest,and for that matter, we're all descendants of Cain.

I for one won't presume to write off entire peoples created in the Lord's image.
95 posted on 11/16/2005 4:55:21 PM PST by kenavi ("Remember, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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