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To: Bonafide
dYou Said:

"My question is: what is the point of spending taxpayer funds on a severely handicapped child that will never be able to work or be a productive citizen?"

I Say:

There is only one other solution and we rejected that in WWII!

Personally I think that is ridiculous. Of course there are other solutions. I think it would be more humane and more cost efficient to assist the families with sitters or other home health care. That is only one suggestion; but, I'm sure there are several other solutions. If a child is not really going to benefit for an "education" and will never be able to use that education for any functional purpose why would we waste EDUCATION $$$$$ on that child? I'm not saying no money should be spent on these children. I'm saying why take it out of the Education budget.

265 posted on 11/17/2005 8:33:21 PM PST by jamaly (I evacuate early and often!)
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To: jamaly
There is a good point there. Why spend money in education- there clearly are some people who it will not ever benefit and the money could help elsewhere.

I have worked as a home aid for a high functioning CP client who had a job and child who was non-verbal with severe CP. After a week or so of being with her I could communicate with her just fine and she with me. SHe was "in there" a good deal more than some people, who hadn't been around her, would understand. She was a nice girl- strong willed - smart as anything- and she could- at some point in her life hold a job if given the chance- and she would always need an aid to help her.

I have worked with children who do nothing- literally all day but rock back and forth- they will never be able to hold a job and will need constant care for everything- I worked as a job coach for developmentally disabled adults- under a JTPA contract where the government matches funds for hiring one of my clients.

SO there is money out there- the problem- again is the fraud.

I quit that job- under a social work contract- because I was given felons to work with instead of DD adults. (It is easier to place a "normaly functioning" felon than a developmentally disabled adult.)

It is the type of people we have in charge of these agencies that is the problem- the money is there, the people in charge are just very greedy and look for the easy way out

Now ,the case workers (just as many teachers in public education) and every below is working their hearts out, and believe in the cause, and are there for nobel reasons -but they don't see that they are enabling the problem - it is the so called compassionate liberals who have ruined the field of social work - for the reasons I have shown above- and now they are doing the same with public education.

We all know how and why- power, laziness, greed, manipulation, and lies. Liberals are self-centered power mongers and they have control over our Social services and education. *sad*

270 posted on 11/18/2005 4:10:35 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks)
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To: jamaly
If you are so sure there other solutions, why don't you share them with us. On the grand scale of things, IQ's range from immeasurable to about 160. Where do you suggest we cut off education. If you believe that an IQ of 80 is waste of money, how about an IQ of 100?

That might exclude you or some of your family members or it might not, but it would certainly exclude people you know from receiving an education.

If you spend a little time in Libraries, you will find that most significant contributions to society come from people with IQ's over 130. Why bother to educate anyone with an IQ less than that?

As far as who contributes what, what have you done in your life that makes you so speical? Most of are born, go to work, pay some taxes, become a burden on society and die. Our markers will attest to our having been here for a few years and then we fade from societal memory, as if we were never here.

Is your life worth more than someone else's life? I don't think so. All life is of immeasurable value and a public education for the least of us, makes the rest of better.
285 posted on 11/18/2005 7:12:35 PM PST by Bonafide (Everything is Simple When You Understand It!)
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