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1 posted on 11/14/2005 5:45:44 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To liberals and Democrats---truth is whatever they want to believe and you wont talk them out of it with facts.


2 posted on 11/14/2005 5:52:11 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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With the MSM carrying the water for the Dems on this "Big Lie", it is difficult for the average Joe to filter out the lies and focus on the facts, even if there is an inclination and time to do so.

There needs to be a "527" campaign launched to educate the public...the MSM will receive much needed revenues but eventually the truth will out...keep showing pictures with dates of the Dems touting the theory that Saddam had wmd's...day after day...attack the media with copies of their own "copy" with dates in the late 90's (long before Bush was running much less elected) that show the MSM knows and reported it when the Dems promoted it.

3 posted on 11/14/2005 5:52:31 AM PST by MarkT
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The MSM and the Democraps seems to SPIN this ,some what successful.

Think of the IDIOTS that believe this crap !!


4 posted on 11/14/2005 5:53:19 AM PST by Zenith
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Great article -- must read -- we already know -- shows how if you tell a lie often enought the peasants will believe.


We must speak out more. and fight harder as this should remind all of us the time in history, 1930's to be accurate when Hitler was spinning his truth.

Remember, journalism is a trade not a profession.


MSM has a hatrid for the current administration.


5 posted on 11/14/2005 5:53:26 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER (concealed carry)
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Had Saddam Hussein lived up to the agreement he made in 1991 to save his regime, we would not have been left wondering if he had chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons. In the aftermath of 9/11/01, this is all the justification that was needed to remove his regime through military force. Of course, Hussein also had ties to terrorists and he tried to kill a former President of the United States. Why are the nimwits on the left still arguing over whether the war in Iraq was justified?


7 posted on 11/14/2005 5:56:01 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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8 posted on 11/14/2005 5:56:26 AM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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Good article, although I only skimmed it. I feel as though I have read this type of article already many times, because I have.

[I actually started a long post here about my utter contempt for those who keep perpetuating this "big lie" about Bush, but I gave up. It's all been said already. They make the most scurrilous charges against Bush & co, but when people answer back by questioning their patriotism, they get all offended. Their own words - condemning the likes of Delay and Frist without a trial, yet worrying whether or not a suspected terrorist is questioned forcefully, for example - damn them more than I ever could. What more can I say? They are not on our side.]
10 posted on 11/14/2005 6:03:29 AM PST by cvq3842
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Podhoretz nails it. Whole lotta lyin' necessary on the Democratic side - including the Democrats in the media - in order to keep this story going.


11 posted on 11/14/2005 6:03:44 AM PST by popdonnelly
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There must be another election coming up in Iraq, our liberals sure do know how to campaign for the enemies.

These people are in a perpetual state of campaigning.
12 posted on 11/14/2005 6:07:27 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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Bump. No registration req'd at opinion journal, everyone should read the whole thing, and slap Libs in the face with it.


13 posted on 11/14/2005 6:12:03 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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I do have a PS - maybe not the most coherent, but sometimes my passion overcomes my reasoning ability.

No one likes war, or casualties. But there are things worse than war.

Do war opponents want to put Saddam back? Or let Zarqawi have the country? When you ask the Democrats this they always act offended that you would ask them to do something other than EXPLOIT people's natural aversion to seeing our troops in harm's way and B*TCH AND MOAN rather than present real solutions.

Isn't it funny how, after threatening Bush 41 with impeachment if he exceeded the UN resolutions and "went to Baghdad," the Dems excused Clinton's dithering on Iraq by saying "Bush 41 didn't finish the job?" And isn't it curious how many of the same folks who are so darned sure that "Bush lied" are without a doubt the same ones who BELIEVED Clinton when after a mere three weeks in office got on TV and told the American people that "I tried my best, huh huh, and I can't keep my promise - I'll have to raise your taxes." Where was the outrage on the left for that?

I don't think the Bush white house is adequately getting the message out. there is something to be said for moving forward and not going on defensive by always answering criticism, but there's danger in the other extreme as well. Let's hope Bush is now on the right track.
14 posted on 11/14/2005 6:12:18 AM PST by cvq3842
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bump and ping and post:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1228236/posts


15 posted on 11/14/2005 6:13:16 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (I know my enemy. I have Cable TV.)
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And so long as we are hunting for liars in this area, let me suggest that we begin with the Democrats now proclaiming that they were duped, and that we then broaden out to all those who in their desperation to delegitimize the larger policy being tested in Iraq--the policy of making the Middle East safe for America by making it safe for democracy--have consistently used distortion, misrepresentation and selective perception to vilify as immoral a bold and noble enterprise and to brand as an ignominious defeat what is proving itself more and more every day to be a victory of American arms and a vindication of American ideals.

This final paragraph in Mr. Podhoretz's fine article clarifies the criminal contempt for the truth that the Democrat party is engaged in. Anti-Americanism in the pursuit of political gain is a vice so horrible that it must be repudiated in the strongest possible manner.

The complete dismantling of the anti-war movement is an absolute necessity if we are to remain a people of dignity and honor.

Let the special prosecutor interview each of these liars, senators especially, and find them guilty of criminal fraud. Then, and only then, will the charges against Libby have any merit whatever.

16 posted on 11/14/2005 6:14:46 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (THIS IS WAR AND I MEAN TO WIN IT.)
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This is an excellent summary of the whole sordid mess.

One compact article to send to your liberal friends.


23 posted on 11/14/2005 6:31:19 AM PST by kidd
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I printed out Norman's piece in Commentary on this subject, and just started to read it last night.


25 posted on 11/14/2005 6:36:27 AM PST by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist , cynic or right wing extremist!)
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it wouldn't hurt if the Bush administration would have a couple of news conferences each week to remind the public of 9/11; in fact remind the public of the FIRST WTC BOMBING IN 1993.(And because of the incompetence of the Clintoons for eight years; THREE THOUSAND AMERICANS WERE MURDERED ON 9/11/2001.) And to also remind the public of the GOOD THINGS that are happening in Iraq, Afghanistan and the war on terror. Whoever is in charge of PR for the Bush administration needs to be replaced! We are at war and for the 'Rats to make a political football out of this war is outrageous!

Semper Fi,
Kelly


26 posted on 11/14/2005 7:07:48 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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Mort Kondrake said, "The democrats would rather lose the war in Iraq than allow Bush to get the pollitical points from it's success.

You can't get much more partisan, arrogant, or seditious than that!! The DEMS ARE DONE!!


27 posted on 11/14/2005 7:15:09 AM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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bump


28 posted on 11/14/2005 7:17:24 AM PST by Skooz (If you believe Adolf Hitler was a Christian, you are a blithering idiot.)
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bump


29 posted on 11/14/2005 7:22:37 AM PST by VOA
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I have e-mail a link to the following to some friends:

  Did Bush Lie? Ask Google

33 posted on 11/14/2005 7:41:35 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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