For state NJ GOP, the numbers never added up

North Jersey Newspapers ^ | 11.13.05 | MIKE KELLY

[PhilipFreneau]

>>>After yet another crushing defeat in a state-wide election, it's worth asking if the state Republican Party has become so marginalized that it may be years before it can be a competitive force in a statewide election.<<<

Run as a Conservative and the voters will come . . .

[fieldmarshaldj]

Moderate like Tom Kean ? Here's the problem right there with the NJ Republicans. Until we get rid of these liberal, corrupt, statist, country-club RINO Jersey Welds and their stooges, the party will NEVER recover.

[JerseyHighlander]

Lonegan has been nothing but a spoiler since the news12 primary debate. He doesn't have what it takes to be a successful state level politician.

The NJ GOP is dead, the state master plan, the great minds of urban planning, the constant influx of new residents and citizens will continuously deny any political organization that has a lower "c" conservative stance on the role of government the platofrm to sway the largest plurality of citizens to vote for that party.

NJ's GOP will be reborn by a Arnold Schwarzenegger populist. The conservative constituency has left the state, making other states more republican, yet less conservative. But for NJ, there is no future Republican party, you can see how shallow the bench is for the NJ GOP by looking at how many relatives of current politicians are being groomed for office. It's a sign of weakness, lack of fresh blood and fresh ideas, lack of dynamicism, and a party that will continue to play it safe in redistricting, we've become the equivalent of the Tories in the UK, the permanent opposition party.

Here's hoping for Corzine to take in the role of a benevolent Caesar, though it's very likely he will destroy large swathes of the state's economy in fits of master planning egomaniacalism.

I expect the property prices in NJ to freeze by May, by that time Corzine's initiatives will be made public. He'll give targeted tax cut to homeowners, but will more than take it back through forcing increases to car and health insurance, commuting costs, income tax increases, increased phone taxes, and increased regulations.

He's planning so many drastic piece of legislation, no one will be able to oppose it all. They've already written the Assembly bills, they're chomping at the bit to introduce them in committee.

[Lancey Howard]

Steve Lonegan had the greatest radio ads during the primary. I was surprised at how disgraceful the GOP voters in New Jersey were that they would once again go with a proven loser like proud "moderate" Doug Forrester.

The first time I heard one of Forrester's radio ads during the general election I decided he HAD to lose for the good of the party. NO WAY can the GOP tolerate a "moderate" winning - - all it does is encourage other wimps to run as "moderates".

I, for one, am delighted that Forrester got smoked.
New Jersey deserves Corzine. Corzine and New Jersey - perfect together.

[Lancey Howard]

The state senator (Tom Kean, Jr.), whose father embodies the moderate New Jersey Republican establishment, was careful to signal that he would reach out to conservatives, many of whom angrily accused Republican Doug Forrester of betraying them in this year's governor's race.

Isn't that nice? A Republican is going to "reach out to conservatives".
He's another one who's got to lose.

[FOG724]

California needs to get a clue.

[Hank Rearden]

Tell me, what does the Republican Party, at any level, stand for?

[leadhead]

Tell me, what does the Republican Party, at any level, stand for?

Coming in second. But liked.

[Liz]

Lonergan forgot to mention the massive voter fraud that locked it up for Corzine who won with the lowest election day turnout in that state's history.

Corzine had the state's officials including the NJ Secy of State, who owns a GOTV business, working on the Corzine campaign on state time, using tax dollars for political purposes.

Corzine, obviously used the McGreevey Playbook entitled: " How To Win Elections By Fellating Unions, Hyphenates, Party Bosses, Fat Cats, Developers, Pay-to-Players, Urbanites With Entitlement Fixations, And Anyone Else Who Figures Taxpayers Owe Them A Living."


Key chapters used by Corzine: (1) buy votes now, pay later (2) promise government funding to anything that moves, then extort taxpayers to foot the bills for the government giveaways once I'm in power, (3) politicians first, taxpayers last, (4) party bosses reign supreme, (5) employ massive voter fraud, it's OK if state employees work the campaign on state time.

Seems the only place Corzine diverged from the McGreevey Playbook is by having a gender-specific lover----unlike McGreevey.

[Calpernia]

Star Ledger said 80% of minority vote went to Corzine.

I wonder how many illegals voted since we are a gateway.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1472612/posts?page=38#38
>>>- Services, ie but not limited to: public school enrollment, language proficiency programs, and building permits, that cater to illegal aliens have increased in areas that are considered gateways for immigration.

- The top nine states that account for 50% of illegal aliens are: California, Texas, Florida, New York, Illinois, New Jersey, Arizona, Georgia and North Carolina.<<<<

[Calpernia]

>>>Lonergan forgot to mention the massive voter fraud that locked it up for Corzine who won with the lowest election day turnout in that state's history.

One of the largest abuses of voter fraud is absentee ballots.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1518679/posts
Vote Early, Vote Often

>>>While voter fraud is not new in this nation, it seems to be gathering steam in recent years with the absentee voting explosion, loosened voting registration requirements and fewer controls, not to mention the enormous incentives for successful practitioners.<<<

Codey relaxed the requirements for absentee ballots right before the election and Corzine encouraged voting by absentee ballots.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1518679/posts?page=4#4
Absentee votes encouraged
Home News Tribune Online 10/27/05

>>>With a new state law essentially allowing any registered voter to make choices using an absentee ballot, the campaigns for both U.S. Sen. Jon S. Corzine, D-N.J., and Republican Doug Forrester have pushed to get out the vote early.<<<

>>>Corzine has talked about absentee voting on the campaign trail, and his campaign has used phone banks, direct mail and his Web site to encourage absentee voters.

"It's definitely a key effort for us," said Corzine spokeswoman Ivette Mendez. "We're looking for folks that we think would support Jon Corzine, and our support is not only coming from the Democratic Party."<<<

[Liz]

Good points.

[Coleus]

Kean Jr. is more like his dad, the NJ RTL already sent out a "warning" about his abortion platform. What scared me about Christie was that the press seemed to be pushing him like they did with McCain.

When the press likes a republican, my radar goes up.

I'm sure, like Giulianni, Christie would have made a formidable candidate.

[leprechaun9]

Mrs. Forrester's last minute appeal bragging that her husband was "Pro-choice" was an in your face to conservatives, "WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO VOTE FOR CORZINE?"

Well I know several Republicans who just decided to stay home!