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You are obviously a moron. All we desire is the opportunity to be able to express our beliefs the way you now have the ability to. Since your system of explaining the origins of life is merely another set of beliefs then you should be given no more creedance to your beliefs than anyone else. You only have the opportunity because you have a state sponsored monopoly in which you step on all other competing beliefs through the power of the state. You are just what you were accusing me of being.

You are a tyrant, your fellow evolution believers are, for the most part, tyrrants; and you can stand nothing that in any way disagrees with you or your opinion. You are all fools in using the raw power of the state to stop what you don't agree with. For the reason of maintaining your state empowered religion you already force any and all to accept your beliefs before they can pass through the gauntlet of education.

Yet, you have nothing but theories to express. Nothing but another religion of secularism and humanism empowered by the guns and badges of the state. Thus you sitting there thinking that anyone who demands the public arena to be shared is somehow committing violence to you. You already are empowered through the states violence against any who attempt to stand and disagree with you. You already have the entire floor, the entire debate, and the monopoly of the minds of each and everyone that comes in the door.

There is no competition in your schools, mainly because you want everyone to believe in your state run religion. You keep that power at the point of a gun, all the while crying that challenging your power is tantamount to an act of censorship. You are a moron. That is about the nicest thing i can say about you. You have all the power and will fight to the last to stop anyone from being able to disagree with you in public.

You deny that what you have is a religion. But what you have is a religion of secularism and humanism. Your religion is the one that has gone through the world and murdered many more millions than could ever be accounted to any and all other religions. No one needs to mention the multiple millions that have been murdered by your secularist religion in USSR, China, Cambodia, Burma, Vietnam, Eastern Europe, and all the other places that it has taken root.

In fact your religion is to be greatly feared in that it doesn't seem to satisfy itself with just existing like any other religion would. Your religion has murdered and still murders, and that doesn't even touch on such things as abortion etc. Your secularist religion elevates man, the state, and humanism as the gods of the present age. The same gods that have left nothing but a massive trail of blood through the last century, and if you get your way through the next.

And all this because your religion can't stand a single element of disagreement with it. That is why you monopolize the public arena, and make laws that forbid anyone from disagreement with you in your modern church (the education establishment). But your religion is soon to be put down. Not by violent revolution, which would be justified considering it's blood-thirsty and unquenchable lust to kill; but, by others knocking holes in it through access to the public arena. That is why you fear that more than actual arms raised up against you. You fear the competition against you.

You know that once the house of cards you have built is spoken against you don't have a leg to stand on.

You are obviously a moron.

It's nice to see such civillity on these discussions.

All we desire is the opportunity to be able to express our beliefs the way you now have the ability to.

You are free to express your beliefs. What you want is to present your beliefs in a science classroom as if they were had the same level of scientific backing as the theory of evolution. This is not the case. You wish to lie to students, and you are upset that real scientists who actually understand science do not wish to have your claims falsely labelled as science.

Since your system of explaining the origins of life is merely another set of beliefs then you should be given no more creedance to your beliefs than anyone else.

We are discussing evolution, not abiogenesis. The theory of evolution says nothing whatsoever regarding the "origins of life". Why do you continue to falsely associate evolution with statements that it does not make?

You only have the opportunity because you have a state sponsored monopoly in which you step on all other competing beliefs through the power of the state.

Again you fundamentally misrepresent the issue. The issue is not over promoting one "belief" over another arbitrarily. The issue is over trying to push out the valid science of evolution to give "equal time" to what amounts to nothing more than supposition, conjecture and wishful thinking, and to this end you are fundamentally misrepresenting what evolution is.

You are obviously a moron.

Well, and a Christian "Good Morning" to you, too!

Just who is the "who" that you referring to in your screed? Too me personally, or to those who think ID does not belong being taught out of its origins, the fundamentalist Christian church? If its me , personally, than I must consider your words to be a very un-Christian violent threat. If your comments are directed at those who believe that a religious dogma, masquerading as a scientific theory, should not be taught in public schools, as I do, then I had better keep my weapons dipped in pig fat.

You've got a big case of "Jihad", my friend. Most people in the USA don't want to go back to the Middle Ages and be ruled by a government run by priests, ministers, rabbi's or Muslim clerics. Neither did the Founding Fathers.