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To: livius
Islam, on the other hand, has a perpetual sense of grievance because it is such an authoritarian, intellectually stifling, fatalistic creed that its adherents are incapable of human progress - and Islam encourages them to blame others for what is a fundamental failure in their world view, constructed by that same Islam.
The only thing wrong with your analysis is that I have absolute experience of the opposite. I work in NY, in IT, and many of my coworkers are Muslims (from South Asia, not Arabs, that's true), who are as hard working, as family-oriented, as mortgage-conscious, and as tech-savy as anybody else I work with. I know that Islam is bad. Especially among the Arabs. But if people are offered jobs and opportunities it changes them. If we lose sight of that, then what's the point of promoting capitalism and free enterprise?

Our president believes that giving people a choice of an open society is always a good thing to do. I believe that too.

Islam is a sick religion, no doubt about it. But the far far greater evil is Socialism.

35 posted on 11/13/2005 3:27:01 AM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman

I think there are or used to be many "cultural Muslims" who see their religion mostly as family holidays, etc. and can happily adapt to the Western model of society and life. However, Islamic societies are without exception backwards and economic mobility is impossible. This has always been the case, and Islamic countries have only progressed to the extent that more Westernized leaders among them have been able to diminish the influence of Islam.

But historically, radical (or actually, orthodox) Islam comes back again and again and overwhelms less fanatically Islamic cultures. This has occurred on a regular basis throughout the history of Islam, and I think we're seeing it happening in this latest round of Islamism. And socialism is a seriously complicating factor that makes it much more dangerous to non-Muslim societies.


36 posted on 11/13/2005 3:39:40 AM PST by livius
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