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Teacher-student sex OK, says prof
WorldNetDaily ^ | November 12, 2005

Posted on 11/12/2005 5:46:05 PM PST by scripter

Is another taboo about to be broken?

A British professor who has been studying pupil-teacher relationships for 25 years concludes sexual contact between them should not necessarily be criminal conduct – in fact, she says, they can be positive experiences.


Prof. Pat Sikes

Pat Sikes of the University of Sheffield was seduced by her history teacher at the age of 14 and later became his wife. Now she has written "Scandalous Stories and Dangerous Liaisons: When Female Pupils and Male Teachers Fall In Love."

It contends classroom affairs are more common than is usually imagined. She writes that expressions of sexuality are part of the everyday exchanges of school life.

"And nowhere more so, perhaps, than in the seductive nature and 'erotic charge' often characteristic of 'good' teaching which provokes a positive and exciting response," she writes.

Sikes met her own husband, David, in 1970 on his first day as a teacher at age 22.

"It wasn't until two years later, on the evening he left to take up a post elsewhere, that we declared our feelings. I returned after the summer vacation as his girlfriend," she said.

The couple finally married when Sikes was in her 30s.

Sikes condemned "exploitative" relationships and said her study was based on stories volunteered by those who had no regrets.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: leftistperversion
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1 posted on 11/12/2005 5:46:07 PM PST by scripter
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To: latina4dubya
Is another taboo about to be broken?

I hope not. Yet another reason to homeschool.

2 posted on 11/12/2005 5:49:01 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter

OK well I think it should be REQUIRED!!!


3 posted on 11/12/2005 5:52:01 PM PST by JustAnotherOkie
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To: little jeremiah

Moral absolutes ping.


4 posted on 11/12/2005 5:52:18 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter
Pat Sikes of the University of Sheffield was seduced by her history teacher at the age of 14 and later became his wife

Here we call that rape.
5 posted on 11/12/2005 5:52:21 PM PST by msnimje ("People for the American Way have issued a Fatwah against Alito" --- John Cornyn)
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To: JustAnotherOkie

"OK well I think it should be REQUIRED!!!"

Amen. ;)


6 posted on 11/12/2005 5:55:43 PM PST by JHBowden (Go White Sox -- World Champs!)
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To: scripter
Guess they need to offer perks like this to attract people to teach in college, what with the low salaries and all. ;)

The teacher-student modality triggers strong attraction in young women - they naturally gravitate toward men who possess both knowledge and authority. That's why the policy was established in the first place. Since the teacher-student relationship naturally triggers so much potential romantic feeling and is so prone to abuse by unscrupulous male teachers, it was important to establish strong boundaries.

7 posted on 11/12/2005 6:00:36 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When government does too much, nobody else does much of anything." -- Mark Steyn)
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To: scripter

This is an exercise in self justification. If it happened in her life and she was ok with it so it must be ok and natural. Now if only the rest of the world would buy into it she wouldn't have to deal with feelings of guilt.


8 posted on 11/12/2005 6:00:40 PM PST by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: scripter

I'm sitting here at my desk in a public school helping out with discipline during a movie in the auditorium on a Saturday afternoon. (The actors from the film are here for a signing and to answer questions, a treat for the town and the school.) Then I read this story. Is this from "The Onion"? Have you ever been in a room full of high schoolers? What kind of grown man would want to have any sort of liasion with that? But let's take this halfbaked idea to its full expression. Imagine a school where teachers and students can date and have affairs. What happens when they break up? What about jealousy? What about rivalries? What about those girls out there who are, let us say, a little loose in their approach to men? Why not just open a copulatorium for a little release between fourth period and study hall? Has this professor even come close to imaging the ramifications of her ideas? It's times like this that I want to tell people that I work in another profession. My God, what a stupid, stupid idea proposed in this article.


9 posted on 11/12/2005 6:00:45 PM PST by redpoll (redpoll)
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I married my college professor (after he and I had both left college). I was 27, he was a very youthful forty when we married. That was 23 years ago. We have two children.


10 posted on 11/12/2005 6:02:45 PM PST by Fairview
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To: scripter

The liberals have been trying to desensitize people to pedophilia for the last 20 years. First they "normalized" homosexuality, now they are going for pedophilia.

The slippery slope is getting steeper and steeper.


11 posted on 11/12/2005 6:03:49 PM PST by MissouriConservative (I would love to change the world, but they won't give me the source code)
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To: contemplator

I teach in a high school in PA where a 50 + male teacher married a former student 9she graduated last year. She's 19 now. His current students have no respect for him and call him a rapist and freak.


12 posted on 11/12/2005 6:04:41 PM PST by takbodan (.)
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To: scripter
Sikes condemned "exploitative" relationships and said her study was based on stories volunteered by those who had no regrets.

Not only is this "study" based on anecdotal evidence; it is anecdotal evidence from a self-selected sample.

13 posted on 11/12/2005 6:06:16 PM PST by Logophile
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Edited for accuracy:

Pat Sikes of the University of Sheffield was seduced raped by her history teacher at the age of 14 and later became his wife. Now she has Stockholm Syndrome.

I think it's time to end all public funding for mental institutions, since insane people can clearly support themselves by working at institutions of higher education.
14 posted on 11/12/2005 6:08:59 PM PST by Turbopilot (Nothing in the above post is or should be construed as legal research, analysis, or advice.)
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To: msnimje
Here we call that rape.

I believe it's statutory rape no matter what state you're in. Whether it's a:

It's always wrong.
15 posted on 11/12/2005 6:10:55 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: redpoll

Should be "imagining." That's what happens when you combine a hot temper with a keyboard.


16 posted on 11/12/2005 6:11:20 PM PST by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: scripter
"her study was based on stories volunteered by those who had no regrets."

Kinda means you were not looking at all student teacher relationships now dont it?

17 posted on 11/12/2005 6:12:22 PM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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Darn! I just pinged out an article about this (deleted)! I'll ping it in a while...don't want to overload the pingees.

People NEED to know this stuff - especially parents and those intended to be parents. Or grandparents.


18 posted on 11/12/2005 6:23:58 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: contemplator
This is an exercise in self justification.

IMO, I agree.

19 posted on 11/12/2005 6:27:32 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: redpoll
Has this professor even come close to imagining the ramifications of her ideas?

That's a great question. I wonder if she'll feel the same way in 10 years.

20 posted on 11/12/2005 6:31:45 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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