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French Police Turn On Chirac As Officer Jailed
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11-13-2005 | Kim Willsher/Henry Samuel

Posted on 11/12/2005 4:40:41 PM PST by blam

French police turn on Chirac as officer jailed

By Kim Willsher in Paris and Henry Samuel in Bobigny
(Filed: 13/11/2005)

After 16 nights battling urban violence by rioters, Jacques Chirac's government is confronting angry new protests - from the police themselves.

Firefighters extinguish a burning car in Strasbourg

Officers at the forefront of attempts to control the wave of riots and arson attacks across France are furious at moves to prosecute policemen accused of assaulting a youth.

As officers were deployed in force in Paris yesterday following a call on weblogs for a mass demonstration, the police union described the jailing of one officer and the suspension of others as "incomprehensible and unacceptable".

Police officers, who have been targeted with stones, missiles and Molotov cocktails since the trouble broke out, said they were "stupefied" by the action taken against their colleagues. Alliance, the main police union, appealed to members for calm after the decision to take the first steps towards charging five police officers implicated in the assault on a youth.

State television showed images of two officers hitting and kicking a young man while six colleagues stood by watching in the northern Paris suburb of La Courneuve on Monday. One officer is being held in detention while four others are also under formal investigation.

The French interior ministry said the victim had suffered cuts to his face and right foot, but had been declared fit for work.

The case has brought to the surface growing police resentment at the failure by politicians to resolve the crisis, the most serious and protracted outbreak of violence in France since 1968.

Jean-Pierre Raymaud, the leader of another police union, told Le Figaro newspaper: "For 15 days we've been targeted constantly and under a lot of pressure. This isn't an excuse but it has to be taken into account. The police have done their work and I don't think finding one or two scapegoats just to demonstrate firmness is fair."

Yesterday afternoon police were out in force but maintaining a discreet profile on the Champs-Elyseés, Paris's most celebrated avenue, after bloggers from the banlieues called for a demonstration yesterday evening. Squad cars and coaches full of riot police were parked in side streets and at either end of the avenue.

The police said that 502 cars had been burned on Friday night, more than on either of the two previous nights, and 206 people were taken into custody.

Mr Chirac's ministers are relying on a combination of police power, curfew orders and a court crackdown to quell the rioting. So far, 593 adults among the 2,440 people arrested have been rushed through "fast track" hearings and 464 have been sent to jail for up to a year. A further 102 juveniles have received custodial sentences.

Pascal Clement, the justice minister, said last week: "I have instructed prosecutors to recommend the strictest sentences for those who have deliberately crossed the laws of the Republic."

The number of cases being pushed through three special courts at Bobigny, northeast of Paris, has led to complaints that justice is being rushed. Mourad Sehan, a legal aid defence lawyer, said: "One man whom I defended and was given a five-month sentence had an alibi that nobody bothered to verify."

Two defendants who appeared before the judge in Chamber 17 of Bobigny criminal court were typical. As their handcuffs were removed, Youssouf Souare, 20, and Bandiougou Diawara, 18, gazed nervously around the crowded courthouse as they were charged with "fabricating and possessing an explosive device". In other words: making a petrol bomb. On the wooden benches, their bewildered families were outnumbered by journalists.

The police claimed that officers had discovered a bottle of petrol and three rags in the boot of their car, and traces of petrol on their hands.

Souare insisted there was just half an inch of cleaning petrol in a plastic bottle, and three old rags - which he said he had because he was employed to remove graffiti on the local council estate. The prosecutor looked embarrassed and declined to recommend a sentence. The two men were acquitted, to cheers from their supporters.

François Molins, the prosecutor general at Bobigny, said: "Trials are rapid but not rushed. We are used to dealing with urban violence and we have kept our serenity."


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To: SnuffaBolshevik
We do. Anyone messes with my car gets their head blown off by my Remington. Any questions?

"Sir (or Ma'am), no Sir (or Ma'am)!"

And that's the way its got to be. God bless the 2nd amendment. I had to wait 45 minutes for police at 2 - 3 am while an angry, drunk ex-boyfriend tried to tear down my door. This was years ago and it hasn't gotten any better since. The police can't be everywhere. First line of defense is one's self.....sir (or Ma'am)!

?8^)
81 posted on 11/12/2005 7:04:25 PM PST by hummingbird (Think I'll google for a while.....on FRED THOMPSON for a seat on the SUPREME COURT!)
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To: hummingbird
Sarkozy's star has risen appreciably. But I don't know the French system. I know the police (local and national) report to Sarkozy, but Sarkozy is hamstrung by Chirac. I don't know what must happen for a change in approach.

But there is no doubt that capitulation doesn't work. Socialism is dying a quick death in Europe. Soon this influence will hit our shores.

Islam is pushing the world to the right. Nothing wrong with that...until it keeps on going. It kicks aside Sarkozy...and next Le Pen is pushed away. This vacuum is hungrier than that. It wants greater anger...greater hatred. It wants the new Fuhrer.

82 posted on 11/12/2005 7:11:03 PM PST by Dark Skies (" For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. " Matthew 6:21)
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To: Borax Queen
Officers at the forefront of attempts to control the wave of riots and arson attacks across France are furious at moves to prosecute policemen accused of assaulting a youth.

As officers were deployed in force in Paris yesterday following a call on weblogs for a mass demonstration, the police union described the jailing of one officer and the suspension of others as "incomprehensible and unacceptable".

Islam is a Religion of Peace; the rioters (contrary to peacemakers, are just disgruntled "youth" (a/k/a Muslims) and it's their molotov cocktail throwing isn't their fault....the devil made them do it.

83 posted on 11/12/2005 7:14:17 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: blam

This is not your Frenchman's France anymore.


84 posted on 11/12/2005 7:22:34 PM PST by Enterprise (The modern Democrat Party - a toxic stew of mental illness, cultism, and organized crime.)
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To: nicmarlo

The poor, poor "immigrants."


85 posted on 11/12/2005 7:30:02 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: The Red Zone

"Ja think that Inspector Clouseau will ever get this figured out?"

Well, Sarkozy seems to have it figured out. The theory goes on to say that this is why he has ordered all foreigners involved in the rioting to be expelled from France.


86 posted on 11/12/2005 8:04:55 PM PST by RAldrich
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To: blam
Police officers, who have been targeted with stones, missiles and Molotov cocktails since the trouble broke out, said they were "stupefied" by the action taken against their colleagues.

We should offer all of these officers and their families U.S. visas and positions with U.S. police departments.

If France burns........"cest la jihad".

87 posted on 11/12/2005 8:14:24 PM PST by Polybius
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To: hummingbird

"Would Chirac be so lame and self-centered as to hand France over, so to speak, to the radical protestors? What about French Foreign Minister? Just as lame as Chirac?"

I think all Chirac wants is a quiet life. De Villepin is a poet and novelist, full of grandiose speeches with no substance.

I don't know how much actual power Sarkozy has.

What France has now is paralysis. Maybe a new Napoleon will appear?


88 posted on 11/12/2005 8:15:46 PM PST by RAldrich
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To: blam

Un-&^@&!ing-believable!


89 posted on 11/12/2005 8:17:22 PM PST by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: backhoe

Not to discredit those that show ISlam for what it really is: a pigsty of bloodbaths and murderers, but WorldNetDaily (which comprises most of the links after clicking through) is the LAST place to get unbiased opinions. They are still eating their stored rice cakes from their failed Y2K DoomsDay predictions. Farah is the biggest NUT of all.


90 posted on 11/12/2005 8:20:48 PM PST by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: Windsong; All

A society that makes war against its Police had better learn to make friends with its criminals.


91 posted on 11/12/2005 8:29:26 PM PST by itsLUCKY2B (“Borders, Language, and Culture.”)
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To: FreedomFarmer
You mean I have to spell ?
I'm tickled when I get < instead of M on the first try.
92 posted on 11/13/2005 8:46:23 AM PST by norton (it IS about the CIA and it IS about CYA...)
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To: cripplecreek

That's just the color I'm looking for to paint a '54 Ford Y-Block!


93 posted on 11/13/2005 8:47:49 AM PST by norton (it IS about the CIA and it IS about CYA...)
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To: blam

Typical of today's so called 'leadership' they turn on their own. Just wait until it hits the fan here, our 'leadership' will turn on American's who attempt to defend themselves, their families and their property so fast it will make one's head swim. The present Western 'leadership' is sick!


94 posted on 11/13/2005 8:56:06 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
"Just wait until it hits the fan here, our 'leadership' will turn on American's who attempt to defend themselves, their families and their property so fast it will make one's head swim. "

The most heavily armed around here are the good guys. The cops and politicians both know it.

95 posted on 11/13/2005 12:01:23 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Simple anwswe do NOTHING but watch, umtil Jackie apologizes.


96 posted on 11/13/2005 12:02:40 PM PST by marty60
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To: blam

So about 25% are adults? I thought it was about the youth rioting because they don't have jobs (which they are probably too young to have anyway).


97 posted on 11/13/2005 12:05:16 PM PST by tertiary01
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To: blam

Old Chirac sat on his hands for days when this started, but the moment a mosque was attacked, he was quick to denounce and threaten those who attacked the mosque.

I suspect old Chirac, like Charles Windsor, may be a closet muzzie. Is anybody else of this opinion?


98 posted on 11/13/2005 12:08:38 PM PST by GadareneDemoniac
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To: GadareneDemoniac
"I suspect old Chirac, like Charles Windsor, may be a closet muzzie. Is anybody else of this opinion?"

I just heard Fox News announce a poll in France that said 70% don't believe Chirac can handle the problem and that 70% think that Nicholas Sarkozy can.

99 posted on 11/13/2005 12:13:59 PM PST by blam
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