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To: Nephi
Nephi,

Perhaps you do not have a handle on arguments based on logic and reason. I used the example "Flu" and "Chicken Soup" because I thought they would be conversational, and less abstract. Please allow me to make my point with more abstract symbols, illustrating the mistake of his statement.

If someone asserts:

Condition "E" causes "L"

to demonstrate the assertion is false, someone only has to show a case where Condition "E" occurs without "L".

Example: Here is "E" without "L", therefore "E" does not cause "L".

If this is too abstract for you, substitute the words "ECLIPSE" for "E" and "LIFE" for "L".

If you want me to discuss the subject, then I could go on spouting off other Planet/Moon combinations that produced Solar Eclipses, where no life is known to exist.

If you were observing the Sun from the surface of Jupiter (not very habitable), it can be eclipsed by Europa and Ganymede.

If you were observing the Sun from the surface of Saturn (not very habitable), it can be eclipsed by Titan and Iapetus.

I could produce many such lists, but from a logical argument perspective, I need only show ONE.

Since you did not seem to get that line of argument with the first example, I used a more conversational and non abstract example to illustrate the falsity of the the line of reasoning. In other words, the LOGIC is false REGARDLESS of the subject matter.
96 posted on 11/13/2005 9:16:21 AM PST by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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To: Rebel_Ace
Yep, just as I thought. Arrogance was a cover for the fact that you don't have a clue as to what Gonzalez was getting at.

This is further demonstrated by the fact that it took you 240 words to say what you could've said more clearly and less arrogantly with about 80 words.

Does the following phrase remind you of anyone?

"He who knows that he knows, doesn't really know. He who knows that he doesn't know, knows."

132 posted on 11/13/2005 7:12:00 PM PST by Nephi (Conservatives did what moderates/Bushbots wouldn't - we rescued Bush's judicial legacy for him.)
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