[secretagent]

Would you agree to the methods I suggest if the ones you suggest failed? So long as it was proved that the individual was a terrorist and there was evidence he did have information, beyond a reasonable doubt, that was vital to the military's efforts to prosecute the war and prevent attacks on themselves and the Iraqi and Afghani civilian populous? Because if causing some terrorist some emotional discomfort and maybe a little pain that is not permanent, and it would save the lives of military personnel and civilians, and CHILDREN, I would have no problem causing a little emotional discomfort and some non-permanent physical pain. Surely you can accept that.

Hard for me to say no to that. I'd also like to see if Moran's methods work. What about you?

[Allen H]

Hey, if it works, bully for Moran! 8) After all, the truth of this is, we BOTH want actionable first hand intelligence from captured terrorists, and want it fast enough that it does good. If that method worked, then great, because if it gets the intelligence, THAT is what matters. But if it doesn't work, the door should be left open for less warm and fuzzy means like I suggested earlier. All that matters is the final result which is getting intel, getting it fast, and stopping terrorist attacks BEFORE they happen, and arresting terrorists in bed or while they're peeing on a palm tree, NOT when they're shooting us or have already planted a bomb somewhere. 8)