Anyone who condones, enables or conceals torture or secret prisons should face prison. If someone dies during the torture or in a secret prison they should face the death penalty. If a jury of their peers finds that they acted in self defense, i.e. the ticking bomb scenario then they should go free. But there is no conceivable defense for a secret prison. They already have Guantanamo. What is so secret that Guantanamo isn't sufficiently secret?
The only conceivable answer is that they want a place where the torturers won't have to face a jury of their peers for their actions. Maybe you're comfortable with it but I'm damned sure not. We're not talking about a slippery slope here we're talking jumping off a cliff.
Waiting for us at the bottom of the cliff is the end of America as we know it.
>>>Anyone who condones, enables or conceals torture or secret prisons should face prison.<<<
I not only condone torture, I recommend it. I also believe all terrorist suspects should be held in secret prisons so their captivity cannot be used for propaganda purposes.
>>>The only conceivable answer is that they want a place where the torturers won't have to face a jury of their peers for their actions. Maybe you're comfortable with it but I'm damned sure not. We're not talking about a slippery slope here we're talking jumping off a cliff . . . Waiting for us at the bottom of the cliff is the end of America as we know it.<<<
I get it, you are John McCain! Admit it! You are that miserable wacko named John McCain!
Also, what is really perverse is your failure to recognize that there is a distinction between the SPECIFICS I laid out, and REAL TORTURE. As I'd expect from a liberal, you have TOTALLY failed to address anything I said. You didn't respond to a single specific thing I said. Not one. So your response has no credibility whatsoever. There is NO evidence that ANY wrongdoing has been done by anyone in the CIA or the military. You have NOTHING but supposition from an ILLEGAL leak.
Most of all, I want you to answer what I asked in post #112. 8) You talk about perverse and perverted so much. What's perverse and perverted is not fighting an enemy and doing whatever it takes to win and end the war, and if that means playing head games with terrorists who would just as soon GUT YOU than look at you, sobeit. Do you think these terrorists are impressed or care about Americans like you that wail and cry for them and are so outraged about "torture" that didn't even take place? Boy, if they had you, they'd start the camera rolling, and wack your head off even as you scream that you are on their side and you defended them against other pervers Americans like me. You REALLY need to open your eyes and look at the real world. It's an ugly place, and the people you are fighting against in this country, are the ones trying to keep you alive, despite the best efforts of the people you are defending, who want to KILL YOU, DEAD! What part of that do you not comprehend? 8)
You know "lpm", it is also quite offensive that you sit so self righteous spouting how perverse this all is, and you, if you're an American that is, sit in America, eating from the fruits of the labors of those who came before you, enjoying the life you have in America that was ONLY made possible, by over 200 years worth of men and woman doing things that you consider to be so perverted. So what's that make you when you pass judgement on those today and those before them, doing what they have to to keep this country safe and free, and here you sit in judgement of them, while enjoying the liberty and freedom that their actions bought for you? THAT my friend is perverted.
NOTE: Just telling me that I am "perverse" or the contect of my posts is "perverted" is NOT debate, and does NOT disprove the validity of what I am saying. ;) Come on. You believe what you said right? You think you are right and I am wrong, well back it up. Come on. 8)
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