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When Torture is the Only Option
Los Angeles Times ^
| 11/11/2005
| DAVID GELERNTER
Posted on 11/11/2005 9:07:04 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: LPM1888
What "tools" are you worried about specifically that dictators like Stalin, Gobechev, Mao and Saddamn used?? I could care less if the CIA keep them uncomfortable to get info out. Frankly I could care less if they rang their chimes!
Pray for W and Our Troops
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posted on
11/12/2005 11:14:03 PM PST
by
bray
(Iraq, freed from Saddamn now Pray for Freedom from Mohammad)
To: bray
What "tools" are you worried about specifically that dictators like Stalin, Gobechev, Mao and Saddamn used?? The "tools" of torture.
I'm not "worried", I'm absolutely furious that our government has sunk to the levels of Stalin, Gorbachev, Mao and Saddam.
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posted on
11/13/2005 9:07:22 AM PST
by
LPM1888
(What are the facts? Again and again and again -- what are the facts? - Lazarus Long)
To: LPM1888
Please explain those tortures such as Stalin, Gorbachev and Mao. Do our guys crush testicles, throw water on people in 50 below zero weather? What specifically?? We all want to be informed of your superior knowledge of our terrible tactics.
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posted on
11/13/2005 9:21:10 AM PST
by
bray
(Iraq, freed from Saddamn now Pray for Freedom from Mohammad)
To: LPM1888
We can both agree that it is a good thing that we freed Iraq from Communist Iraq, can't we??
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posted on
11/13/2005 10:41:18 AM PST
by
bray
(Iraq, freed from Saddamn now Pray for Freedom from Mohammad)
To: bray
Please explain those tortures such as Stalin, Gorbachev and Mao. Do our guys crush testicles, throw water on people in 50 below zero weather? What specifically?? We all want to be informed of your superior knowledge of our terrible tactics. Since they insist on doing their deeds in secret prisons we never will know exactly what is being done. That's the whole point of using secret prisons so there is no accountability, just more of the "trust me" crap. I damned sure don't trust them at all anymore.
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posted on
11/13/2005 12:35:52 PM PST
by
LPM1888
(What are the facts? Again and again and again -- what are the facts? - Lazarus Long)
To: bray
We can both agree that it is a good thing that we freed Iraq from Communist Iraq, can't we?? Iraq has never been a Communist country, it was a dictatorship. Get your facts straight.
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posted on
11/13/2005 12:37:46 PM PST
by
LPM1888
(What are the facts? Again and again and again -- what are the facts? - Lazarus Long)
To: LPM1888
Wrong my Liberal friend. It was a Communist tyranny modeled after his hero Stalin. Much like the form of gummit DemocRats support.
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posted on
11/13/2005 2:06:40 PM PST
by
bray
(Iraq, freed from Saddamn now Pray for Freedom from Mohammad)
To: Txsleuth
Very well put. I have heard the criticisms that the Pres. "shouldn't have made it political" on Veteran's Day and I don't agree. You said it as well as it could be said. The Dem's made this political and what they have is all distortions and lies. If I had my way these traitors would be tortured before they were killed. Just as an object lesson.
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posted on
11/13/2005 2:19:22 PM PST
by
TigersEye
(Intellectuals exist only if you think they do.)
To: LPM1888
Since they insist on doing their deeds in secret prisons we never will know exactly what is being done. Which means that you don't have the slightest idea what is or isn't being done there. All of your Chicken Little ranting is just so much uninformed hot air.
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posted on
11/13/2005 2:26:32 PM PST
by
TigersEye
(Intellectuals exist only if you think they do.)
To: TigersEye; LPM1888
Once again, TigersEye....I have to agree with you...
IF these secret prisons have been SECRET all of this time...we have no idea how anyone has been treated...
and for posters to say they are sick of what our country "has done" is being purposely misleading and without merit.
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posted on
11/13/2005 2:34:14 PM PST
by
Txsleuth
(I am the real TXSLEUTH...please freepmail me if you doubt it.)
To: LPM1888
You never answered whether it was good that we freed the Iraqi people from Iraq?? Did you forget or something...or something???
Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters
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posted on
11/13/2005 2:46:50 PM PST
by
bray
(Iraq, freed from Saddamn now Pray for Freedom from Mohammad)
To: Txsleuth
...for posters to say they are sick of what our country "has done" is being purposely misleading ... And people are purposely misleading because they have an agenda that can't stand the light of day. Nothing wrong with an agenda per se but one that has to be hidden and automatically presumes the worst of our country is bogus.
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posted on
11/13/2005 3:11:28 PM PST
by
TigersEye
(Karma is inevitable! A man reaps what he sows in this moment or the next.)
To: Zack Nguyen
Training. They did they very little least they could to give you an idea of what torture was going to be like. More than likely, you are going to get your nose broken, and maybe a rib. If they are serious, you are going to give up what you know.
The REALITY of the situation is that if you are captured, and you are American, its a pretty sure bet you are going to be tortured for information, especially if you are an officer.
All this horse hockey about us renouncing torture is just the media trying to tie another hand behind our back.
I'll say this: If the President doesn't decide to really take the gloves off and go after the moderates in Congress and the media over the war, we are going to lose it as surely as we are sitting here.
To: bray
That has nothing to do with our current discussion. Are you on the correct thread?
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posted on
04/20/2006 12:31:06 PM PDT
by
LPM1888
("If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy")
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