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Ithaca is the City of Evil.


1 posted on 11/11/2005 8:01:48 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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2 posted on 11/11/2005 8:02:26 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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2004: Zogby Polling Seeks Damage Control After Election Day Flub
3 posted on 11/11/2005 8:03:32 AM PST by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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Well, I suppose we can just toss Zogby's poll results out now that his Bias is out on his sleeve.

Always nice to see influence peddlers brought to heel!
4 posted on 11/11/2005 8:04:17 AM PST by Danae
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Shawnta Watson Walcott, communications director for Zogby International, joined a group of liberal Democrats at a faux congressional hearing focused on whether fraud influenced the Nov. 2 outcome.
5 posted on 11/11/2005 8:04:33 AM PST by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; aculeus; BlueLancer; Senator Bedfellow; Coop
He holds degrees in history from Le Moyne College and Syracuse University. He is listed with Leading Authorities and the Capitol Speakers Bureau in Washington, D.C.

Oh. The way he's pontificating about the conduct of this war,

... we’ve had no plans other than to bomb the hell out of Baghdad, paint targets on our troops … I want to pound some sense into those people ...

I wrongly assumed he was a general.

9 posted on 11/11/2005 8:06:55 AM PST by dighton
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Heavily criticizing the Bush administration’s Middle East policy, pollster John Zogby, president and CEO of Zogby International, spoke yesterday evening at the Alice H. Cook House ...

So, here's a guy who does polls for a living, and he's spouting anti-Bush rhetoric at a college.

If we didn't believe his polls before we sure won't believe them now.

10 posted on 11/11/2005 8:08:46 AM PST by Noachian (To Control the Judiciary The People Must First Control The Senate)
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Zogby is an Arab. And a leftist. A deadly combination.


11 posted on 11/11/2005 8:08:51 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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Good police work will find the terrorists; you breed more terror by shutting off people,” he said.

He really honestly sincerely believes we're retarded.

12 posted on 11/11/2005 8:09:13 AM PST by NativeNewYorker
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Heehee!

Scroll down a bit... we're mentioned in there.

17 posted on 11/11/2005 8:13:44 AM PST by RedBeaconNY (Vous parlez trop, mais vous ne dites rien.)
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He also predicted a “rendering apart” of the Republican base as the Christian right battled against other conservative intellectuals

Gee, sounds like he doesn't quite understand the concept of a 'big tent'. Yet, that's what Democrats claim they have. Interesting. Or, more likely, he's projecting on the GOP the rendering occuring now in his party. Liberals project a lot.

This is yet more suicidal liberal behavior on parade. Their self-destruct genes seem to be triggering heavily these days.

18 posted on 11/11/2005 8:17:15 AM PST by polymuser (")
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“. . .but you’ve got to know where you’re going; we’ve had no plans other than to bomb the hell out of Baghdad, paint targets on our troops. . ."

I wasn't aware that Zogby was an active military general. I mean, he MUST be since he knows we've not had any plans for dealing with Iraq.

19 posted on 11/11/2005 8:20:27 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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“When you stop and weigh [the war] and think in terms of the lives being lost and weigh it against Saddam’s crimes, yes, there might be a rationale"

He just can't bring himself to admit it.

The next step would be to admit that "When you stop and weigh the war and think in terms of the lives being lost and weigh it against overthrowing every tinhorn dictator in the region by lighting the fire of democracy in Iraq, yes, there might be a rationale."

Blaming Israel, America, Russia, or Zimbabwe has gotten the Arab world nowhere. The problem with the Middle East isn't foriegn oppression, it's domestic oppression. Until the despots are overthrown, and secular governments installed, they'll remain trapped in their wretched status quo of failure and defeat. The dominoes are already starting to fall.

20 posted on 11/11/2005 8:23:30 AM PST by Steel Wolf (* No sleep till Baghdad! *)
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I was just going to say that Zogby spoke in Ithaca, where he knew he'd get a friendly hearing. Talk about a setup. Nobody questions 'the prince of pollster's' motives or prejudices.


21 posted on 11/11/2005 8:25:51 AM PST by hershey
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Zogby: we’ve had no plans other than to bomb the hell out of Baghdad, paint targets on our troops...

This is a despicable, misleading lie. Zogby completely ignores the ambitious plans to create a democratically elected government and new constitution for Iraq which were accomplished at a nearly miraculous pace given the size of the task and the history of the region.

These are not the words of an analyst, but of a zealous leftist ideologue. One should never again trust a single conclusion or statistic that emanates from the Zogby organization.

22 posted on 11/11/2005 8:26:59 AM PST by Unmarked Package
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“[Americans] want the war won, the war over and our troops out of harm’s way ... I learned that the US was still very much in the post-Vietnam era,” Zogby said.

Perhaps we can send our troops to France for some R and R. Oh wait a minute. The French appear to be still fighting an Algerian War that began 51 years ago. When is the War going to be over in France ?

The left is in complete denial of reality. On the other hand those with clearly functional brains rejoiced when we found out there were no stockpiles of WMD's. Why did we rejoice ? Because if Saddam had stockpiles we would have lost 1,000's of troops and Iraqi civilians from WMD attacks in the initial fight to take Baghdad. No one in their right mind thought that patrolling a middle eastern country with millions of islamist was going to be easy. Except perhaps for the ex-CIA leftist disinformation 'experts'.

25 posted on 11/11/2005 8:45:29 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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Zogby and his ilk seem to think that winning polls is the same thing as winning elections. Polls are useless if they don't honestly reflect the population that they are sampling. They are not helping their clients plan efficient political strategies when they spin polls to fit their perceived reality. It's always very helpful when the Dems think their winning when their just losing again.
26 posted on 11/11/2005 8:46:48 AM PST by skikvt
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What qualifies a hack like Zogby to speak on security policy?? He's a pollster, and not a very good one at that. This gives him some special standing to speak on Iraq policy? Oh wait, being an Arab-American makes him an expert. Well guess what John, this Arab-American says liberating Iraq from a mass murdering terrorist-tyrannt like Saddam was a good thing and history will vindicate our policy as having been ground-breaking and visionary. To paraphrase Churchill: If we don't take on Al Qaeda now in Iraq, then when? If not us, who? If not now, when? Give it up John. Go back to skewing polling results with all the other pollsters by over-representing Democrats and mis-calling elections based on your wishful thinking.


27 posted on 11/11/2005 8:49:18 AM PST by MikeA
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"Let me be the First to Congratulate you President Kerry!"

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters

32 posted on 11/11/2005 9:13:15 AM PST by bray (Iraq, freed from Saddamn now Pray for Freedom from Mohammad)
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I see more and more evidence that we are winning in Iraq. There is more and more Saddam nostalgia.


33 posted on 11/11/2005 9:16:15 AM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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Well of course we follow our sting of distinguished campus speakers with ZOGBY. Keep in mind that he follows such alumni sages as Sandy the Burglar man and Janet (the torch) RENO. So it would be fitting that we would invitepossibly the most inaccurate pollster of our time based on the 2004 results. Gotta hear from those who manipulate. But there is some good news.

For all that was paid (don't even want to know what he charged) to hear this drivel--the transportation cost were presumably only from Utica. A veritable gift to the campus.


35 posted on 11/11/2005 10:22:17 AM PST by rod1
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