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To: Physicist; annalex

Phy....Are you saying that Darwin's ideas were advanced to push a social agenda, and not to reflect the development of life on Earth


Yes. Totally. Without any doubt.
Darwin conceived of an idea, an idea of which he himself had extremely grave doubts. Engels read Darwins book and wrote to Marx that in effect, Darwin's idea was just the ticket/facade needed to disguise their neopagan worldview system.


One of these days, maybe sooner rather than later, you're going to discover that the so-called 'science & reason' by which you've lived your life and assumed thereby that you occupied the 'moral high ground' was nothing but smoke and mirrors.

I recommend that you obtain a copy of The Black Book of Communism and begin your journey to true Enligtenment.


53 posted on 11/11/2005 1:54:54 PM PST by Lindykim (Courage is the first of all the virtues...if you haven*t courage, you may not have the opportunity)
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To: Lindykim
Darwin conceived of an idea, an idea of which he himself had extremely grave doubts.

I'd like you to give a source for that assertion. I believe it's wrong.

But here's what you're missing: It doesn't matter to me what Darwin thought of his idea, or what his motives were for advancing it. I'm a scientist. I judge the merit of his idea on whether it is right or wrong, and I make that judgment based on the evidence. And having looked at the evidence with a professionally trained eye, I conclude that his idea so correctly and comprehensively describes the development of life on Earth, that I consider it to be one of the greatest achievements in the history of science.

One of these days, maybe sooner rather than later, you're going to discover that the so-called 'science & reason' by which you've lived your life and assumed thereby that you occupied the 'moral high ground' was nothing but smoke and mirrors.

Are you saying that all of the evidence I've seen is wrong, or that I've been fooled by a suite of simple but incorrect theories that accidentally fits all of that evidence spectacularly well?

...or are you saying that you personally don't like the consequences of those ideas being correct?

57 posted on 11/11/2005 2:12:43 PM PST by Physicist
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To: Lindykim
Darwin conceived of an idea, an idea of which he himself had extremely grave doubts. Engels read Darwins book and wrote to Marx that in effect, Darwin's idea was just the ticket/facade needed to disguise their neopagan worldview system.

What a pantload. So how about when someone reads and misinterprets the Bible and decides it justifies the killing and oppression of other people? Shall we condemn the bible with equal vigor?

59 posted on 11/11/2005 2:18:15 PM PST by blowfish
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To: Lindykim

"Darwin conceived of an idea, an idea of which he himself had extremely grave doubts."

Darwin had no doubts about evolution. That's a creationist fantasy. He went to his grave secure in the knowledge he had hit on an important scientific discovery.


79 posted on 11/11/2005 6:58:39 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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