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Wal-Mart worker 'history' after 'origin' of Christmas
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Posted on 11/11/2005 12:27:04 AM PST by News Hunter

"We at Wal-Mart believe this e-mail between a temporary associate and one of our valued customers was entirely inappropriate. Its contents in no way represent the policies, practices or views of our company. This associate, who was hired less than three weeks ago, is no longer employed by our company."

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To: MSSC6644

It's the STAMPING OF THE FEET WHEN NOT GETTING THEIR WAY people who just make me laugh.


81 posted on 11/11/2005 6:48:41 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
It was amazing to read those posts which ran 10 to one in favor of the e-mail being a hoax.

I was one of those - and you have to admit that this former employee speaking officially on behalf of the reasons for the company's new policies, thus it should be considered a hoax if it's passed off as such.

That said, finding that the "hoax" email and Wal-Mart policies/practices dovetail at numerous points is disturbing to say the least. In contrast to this "let's be inclusive" avoidance of acknowledging Christianity or Christmas going so far as to strip the terms from being spoken publicly, consider Hobby Lobby's corporate Statement of Purpose:

In order to effectively serve our owners, employees, and customers the Board of Directors is committed to:

Honoring the Lord in all we do by operating the company in a manner consistent with Biblical principles.

Offering our customers an exceptional selection and unbeatable value.

Serving our employees and their families by establishing a work environment and company policies that build character, strengthen individuals, and nurture families.

Providing a return on the owners' investment, sharing the Lord's blessings with our employees, and investing in our community.

We believe that it is by God's grace and provision that Hobby Lobby has endured. He has been faithful in the past, we trust Him for our future.


82 posted on 11/11/2005 6:53:06 AM PST by Alex Murphy (Psalm 73)
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To: JCEccles
Christmas was and is the founding tradition in this nation--not Channukah, not Ramadan, not Kwanzaa. Christmas properly should have primacy over these other cultural traditions.

Christmas is celebrated by probably 90% of the people in this country. If you go on Wal-Mart's website, you see they have something like 8000 items on sale in connection with Christmas, much more than for any other holiday.

I really cannot see what the problem is here.

83 posted on 11/11/2005 6:53:31 AM PST by Palisades (Cthulhu in 2008! Why settle for the lesser evil?)
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To: RobbyS

A thousand years is relatively recent compared to two or three thousand years.


84 posted on 11/11/2005 7:14:58 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: SoothingDave
Other than being a killjoy, of what purpose would it be to deliberately remove the joy and pleasure from a holiday?

Some wish to remove Christ from Christmas, others may wish to remove the pagan observances from Christmas. Make them separate observances, and there will be no more asinine bickering.
85 posted on 11/11/2005 7:18:26 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott
However, the thousand years I am talking about are integral to our culture, and Christmas(and other Christian feasts) a formative element. What you are talking about is, except for anthropologists, made-up stuff. Hanukkah, as any Jew would acknowledge, is a minor feast, celebrated only because it occurs at Christmas time. Ramadan is an alien custom, emphasized only for political reasons.
86 posted on 11/11/2005 7:31:47 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: R. Scott
Other than being a killjoy, of what purpose would it be to deliberately remove the joy and pleasure from a holiday?

Some wish to remove Christ from Christmas, others may wish to remove the pagan observances from Christmas. Make them separate observances, and there will be no more asinine bickering.

You didn't answer the question. Why do you think joy and pleasure do not belong in a proper Christian celebration of Christmas? What is wrong with giving gifts and decorating our houses?

SD

87 posted on 11/11/2005 7:35:56 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: JCEccles
Christmas properly should have primacy over these other cultural traditions.

Because I am a Christian, I agree; however, my point is WAL-MART IS A BUSINESS! Because they sell to everyone, they shouldn't be showing "favoritism." No matter what they do, they're going to offend someone. I say, realize that and don't be offended. It seems obvious to me that they certainly didn't intend to offend us.

88 posted on 11/11/2005 8:26:37 AM PST by MSSC6644
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To: Andy'smom
Ramadan falls within the Sept.-Oct. time frame, not near Christmas.

What's that old saw about choosing your battles carefully. Give me a break, please. I apologize for the error. Mea culpa.

89 posted on 11/11/2005 8:31:01 AM PST by MSSC6644
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To: RobbyS
What you are talking about is, except for anthropologists, made-up stuff.
I don’t under stand the comment. People have been celebrating midwinter for a very long time – long before the Christ was born.
90 posted on 11/11/2005 8:42:31 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: SoothingDave
Why do you think joy and pleasure do not belong in a proper Christian celebration of Christmas? What is wrong with giving gifts and decorating our houses?
I don’t think there is anything wrong, but I also don’t beat people over the head with my Holy Bible and profess to being a True Christian – while observing pagan rites and traditions and complaining that people of other faiths – or of no faith – are trying to usurp the holiday that Christians usurped.
Some want the best of both worlds – both pagan and Christian. I personally think the whole controversy is asinine.
91 posted on 11/11/2005 8:49:42 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Axhandle

Excuse me, I am very offended by Happy Holiday.

Don't you realize that Holiday is derived from Holy Day?

Who the heck wants to celebrate a Holy Day?

Try to be more considerate of others' beliefs.


92 posted on 11/11/2005 9:41:58 AM PST by altura
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To: R. Scott

"People" who lived a long time ago and outside of our common culture. Pretty much irrelevant to any discussion of holidays. Even the story of the assignment of the day of Christ's birth to December 25 has gotten garbled. In part it wass the co-option of the winter soltice feast. but the longer, and more accurate story is that Christmas is a minor feast compared with Easter. We don't know exactly when Iesus was crucified. Some would have it on a March 25th, others on an April 7 (exact year uncertain). The old Jewish story had it that Prophets all died on the day of their conceptions. Therefore, some would have Jesus born on December 25, others on January 6. The way the custom developed, December 25 wass established on the church calender as the date of the Nativity, with January 6th being Epiphany. (the Feast of the Three KINGS). The latter is sometimes called "Little Christmas " and is the day in Latin countries when gifts are exchanged. In England you have the 12 days of Christmas for gift giving, a kind of compromise. In the US we just dump everything into one day, so that by December 26, all the Xmas Music is gone.


93 posted on 11/11/2005 10:11:19 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Marlin4570
my wife has been at Sam's Club since 1989

Hey, I can spend a long time in Bass Pro, but that has me beat! ;)
94 posted on 11/11/2005 10:16:35 AM PST by Rastus
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To: All
Christmas is a wonderful American tradition!

I'm happy to see Walmart didn't stay with the PC crap we're being brainwashed with. "Others" coming here, and the liberals/atheists/ACLU want to wipe out all mentions of Christ in the USA.

When I was going to school we all looked forward to having our Christmas program complete with baby Jesus in the manger...we sang these type of songs!

Joy to the World
O Holy Night
Hark! The Herald Angels Sing
Silent Night
O Little Town of Bethlehem
It Came Upon a Midnight Clear
Away in a Manger
The First Noel
O Come, All Ye Faithful

Everyone wants to come to the USA, but once they get here they want to change our traditions, and customs.

We need to keep America like our forefathers wanted it to be...with each tiny change we make...step by step...over the years we're going to lose our greatness.

America was founded on Christian principals...kids learned to read from the Bible...the 10 Commandments was posted in schools...witness's in court swore a oath on the Bible to tell the truth, and now we're being told we must do away with all our traditions.

If others don't like our traditions....LEAVE!!!
95 posted on 11/11/2005 10:54:20 AM PST by Ready2go (Isa 5:20 Destruction is certain for those who say that evil is good and good is evil;)
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To: RobbyS
We don't know exactly when Iesus was crucified. Some would have it on a March 25th, others on an April 7 (exact year uncertain).

As He was in Jerusalem to celebrate Passover, it is narrowed down a bit.
96 posted on 11/11/2005 11:32:46 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Rastus

OMG, I'm so excited! Bass Pro Shops will be opening a store here (near Knoxville) this month. Woo Hoo!!


97 posted on 11/11/2005 12:04:13 PM PST by TennesseeGirl
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To: TennesseeGirl

A big Bass Pro complex will be opening near me (Garland, TX) soon, too. It's going to have a hotel, restaurants, everything!


98 posted on 11/11/2005 12:10:51 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Alex Murphy

I never realized Hobby Lobby was such a Christ-centered company.

I'll try to do more Christmas shopping there. Thanks for the tip.


99 posted on 11/11/2005 12:20:28 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ('Deserves' got nothing to do with it.)
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To: R. Scott

We still don't know the year. That's why the range of dates is offered.


100 posted on 11/11/2005 12:29:20 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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