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Historian massages clinton numbers, ego + legacy at revisionist confab
C-SPAN, Losing Bin Laden: How Bill Clinton's Failures Unleashed Global Terror, AP | 11.11.05 | Mia T

Posted on 11/11/2005 12:12:10 AM PST by Mia T

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To: citizensgratitude

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21 posted on 11/11/2005 1:16:05 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: WorkingClassFilth

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22 posted on 11/11/2005 1:17:52 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
Clinton's best scores were on the economic management

Oh, please.

Clinton scores below Nixon in moral authority....what a surprise.

23 posted on 11/11/2005 1:18:16 AM PST by cowboyway (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: cowboyway

clinton 'managed' the economy by ignoring terrorism.

Bin Laden repeatedly declared war on America and repeatedly committed acts of war against America, and clinton did nothing, nothing to upset the mideast muslim ego and nothing to upset the Dow.


24 posted on 11/11/2005 1:25:16 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: cowboyway

click on clinton's finger ("loser") in first image, above. You will hear clinton rage directed at peter jennings for bringing up clinton's moral-authority ranking relative to nixon's....


25 posted on 11/11/2005 1:30:44 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
You will hear clinton rage directed at peter jennings for bringing up clinton's moral-authority ranking relative to nixon's....

During the audio, Clinton barely acknowledges that he 'made a mistake', but is quick to point out that he paid for it.

Well, Bubba didn't pay for it nearly as much as millions of Americans did.

26 posted on 11/11/2005 1:46:40 AM PST by cowboyway (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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27 posted on 11/11/2005 3:40:28 AM PST by devolve (<--- (--------(--do not check out my lame FR home page--)--------)
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To: Mia T
I posted an AP article on this circle-jerk yesterday... in it, the term 'wonkstock' was used. I just about hurled.

All I could think of, to relate this gathering of hapless lackies to, was the original version of 'Oceans 11'. The first meeting before they made their big casino heist.

The only legacy for Bill Clintoon is shame... he knows it, and the fools who joined him know it as well. This 'confab' was just to get everyone on the same page for the Clintoon's return to the White House in 2008. Each one of these turds has the vision of working for the next, Clintoon administration.

I'm sure Bush's loss of focus during the past several months... and the collapse of our Republican majority has their spirits high.

28 posted on 11/11/2005 3:47:21 AM PST by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: Mia T
revisionist confab ping

No matter how desperately they try to spin it, the simple fact remains there is not one single enduring Clinton accomplishment as President. He was a painful insignificant figure. He will remain that way no matter how hard they try to puff him up. In fact, the most enduring legacy of the Clintons will be the hysteric perpetual campaign we currently see where the President is expected to be continually on campaign rather then actually governing "Why doesn't Bush fight back etc) and the politics of sleaze. Where character assignation, guilt by accusation and fundamental corruption in institutions will be considered "political as usual".

29 posted on 11/11/2005 3:53:45 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I'll try to be NICER, if you will try to be SMARTER!.......Water Buckets UP!)
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To: Mia T
[Waco] Nearly 80 cult followers died in a fire during the 1993 confrontation.

"We should have waited them out," Clinton said.

Eighty Americans incinerated. A Republican President would have been impeached immediately.

30 posted on 11/11/2005 4:34:43 AM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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To: Mia T

BTTT!


31 posted on 11/11/2005 5:06:17 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (The problem with being a 'big tent' Party is that the clowns are seated with the paying customers.)
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To: Jacquerie
Waco happened right after Clinton won the election with 43% of the vote, thanks to the despicable Ross Perot, who was later awarded the Social Security Administration contract of almost a billion dollars for his help.

This was Bill's way of putting all of the state militia's that were popular at the time on notice of how they would be dealt with if they physically opposed him. With the Branch Didivians, he was relatively sure he could handle the political fallout because they were small in numbers, and they were outside of the what seemed to be a normal way of life. He even violated the posse comitatus act by having his buddy Wesley Clark, the commander of Fort Hood, lend him some armored personnel carriers to use against US citizens. This act alone was enough to impeach him.

However, along with Hillary's failed health care scheme (which once again the infamous Ross Perot was lurking in the shadows), Bill's approval numbers continued to lag. Then the Oklahoma City bombing united the people of the US against a common foe, or so we thought. And Bill's numbers stayed high throughout his presidency.

I'm convinced that Clinton along with the BATF were complicit in the Murrah Building bombing, but have no proof, or way of proving it. I would be interested in seeing how many of the BATF employees that had offices in the Murrah Building are still alive. You would need to get rid of them, if they were complicit.

32 posted on 11/11/2005 5:40:15 AM PST by Texas Jack
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To: mewzilla

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33 posted on 11/11/2005 5:42:54 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

Great work. Again :) Thanks for the ping. Brinkley's a hoot, isn't he?


34 posted on 11/11/2005 5:53:44 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Texas Jack
Perot assisting the missus with her fascistic hillarycare machinations was payback for splitting the vote the first time, thereby allowing the rapist to win with a plurality of only 43%.

The clintons can never get a majority in a national election.

They will attempt to pull another perot (or an issue that functions like a perot) out of the hat in '08.

Remember, a perot ploy can only succeed with our complicity. We must not allow the clintons to split us up.

LUCINDA FRANKS: I think you're wrong because, after about two years of -- of working on this, you know, on and off, I think the president -- that the teenage culture caused the president's behavior in the way he behaved in -- with the oral sex.
 
BILL O'REILLY: I think you're crazy, Ms. Franks, with all due respect.

Fellating Kids and clinton Degeneracy: The Revisionism Begins

 
 

"Be Liberal, Live in Ignorance and Servitude"

by Gail Wynand

Liberals have always had problems figuring out causation. They believe for example that because people who smoke (sometimes) have higher rates of cancer than people who don't that smoking CAUSES cancer, worse, they believe that if people get cancer it is the fault of the "tobacco companies" (i.e., caused by the manufactures of tobacco products). They further believe that the remedy for this fault is that billions of dollars in "damages" should be transferred from the wealth of stockholders in tobacco companies to a handful of plaintiffs lawyers including the First Lady's relatives and others closely associated with the Democratic party. And they believe, apparently, that if young people are now experimenting with sex at early ages and with more profoundly explicit practices than in past years, and that if the President of the United States decides to enroll a young intern in rendition of such services to his middle aged libido resultantly staining both her dress and America's reputation, that a spontaneous wave of teenage sex experimentation, sucked (sorry) the poor middle aged chief executive into its vortex.

Deducing causation in most events takes deliberate, focused, thought, insight, and a disciplined intelligence that doesnt skip foundational indoctrination (aka actually studying in school). Causation of the diseases associated with cancer is highly complex and to a large degree still unknown. That smoking is probably not healthy for you is well known. That a middle aged chief executive, Yale Law School graduate, former professor of Constitutional Law and State Attorney General should be responsible and accountable for his own actions including HIS perjury and obstruction of justice would seem axiomatic to all but a liberal who has the capacity to adopt causationally convenient theories based solely on tangential proximity to the event under examination rather than through any rational analysis of the importance or significance of the asserted cause to the event. Thus, "guns" are used in some murders therefore, to a liberal all "guns" should be either banned or kept in locked safes with trigger locks so as to disarm the law abiding public and eviscerate their legally recognized right to effective self defense.

Quite simply, one has to be pretty stupid or very corrupt or both to be a liberal, at least and for sure to be a Clinton supporter. But it is worse than that, one also has to deny the importance of human consciousness and free will. That is, a Clinton defending liberal apparently believes that childhood psychic trauma, teenage sex trends (remarkably and largely only rampant among the social classes targeted by liberals for social intervention for the past 40 years) and the power of "addiction" which used to be considered merely "habituation" in more stalwart times, are more significant than free will in determining human conduct.

Clearly someone should notify America's founders that they have erred... men are not deserving of self-government, because clearly self-government is nothing more than the aggregation of all our psychic traumas and libidinal confusions.. and look where that has gotten us...one Clinton leaving the white house and one aiming for the US Senate for the State of New York... perhaps the liberals ARE onto something? But no, study the last two Clinton elections carefully... this most shameless and shameful American President is the product of plurality (less than majority) votes obtained through the gile and intrigue of an elitist cabal of intellectually impaired and ethically corrupt media manipulators aligned in effect with the electoral tampering of one man, H. Ross Perot, who although he occasionally gave a good speech was still intelligent enough to know his only role was to twice deny the conservative majority of American voters a first choice for President. And now even as Evita determinedly grasps for the Security Power and Influence of the Senate seat, one sees in her early campaigning the overriding awareness that her only hope is the sowing of confusion and ignorance... the demonization of a long time public servant whose accomplishments are towering, the pandering to the lowest and most depraved and corrupt anti social organizations and figures (no not the mob, the teachers unions and Mr. Sharpton). Arm in arm this body of liberal enthusiasts march forth to assure that America continues to be contaminated and disabled by their control of government into the 21st century... arrogantly and in complete disregard of truth, rationality, or the notion of liberty... they pound at the very gates of freedom, threatening to burn (redefine to mean the opposite of what they say) the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and the Gettysburg Address and replace them with their own Orwellian Banners of "community" "children" "education" "fairness" and all the other focus group tested liberal-illogicisms. But the translation exists and when the alien identifying sunglasses are donned all of their slogans can be seen to read "Be Liberal, Live in Ignorance and Servitude"

 

For the children?
the clintons ARE pornography downloads
by Mia T, 7.14.05




35 posted on 11/11/2005 6:07:00 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

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36 posted on 11/11/2005 6:26:48 AM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: mewzilla
I actually heard Douglas Brinkley on C-SPAN discussing those presidential rankings.

He never stated--he never even implied--that there was any evidence whatsoever of 'greatness' in the clinton presidency.

What he did describe was a relatively banal presidency that was, at best, middling and small and that it would get only less valued and smaller with time.

What clinton is doing with all this faux-scholarly self-promotion is mucking up the data in order to confound future historians (even as the clintons' undermining of Bush is the realtime, real live implementation of posthumous misappropriation, the clintons' preferred method of legacy inflation).

Upstaged, clinton Recycles Tired Canard, Tries New Revisionist Tack

 

by Mia T, 11-03-03

 

Biography lends to death a new terror.--Oscar Wilde 

 

 

Hypocrisy abounds in this Age of Clinton, a Postmodern Oz rife with constitutional deconstruction and semantic subversion, a virtual surreality polymarked by presidential alleles peccantly misplaced or, in the case of Jefferson posthumously misappropriated...

Mia T, THE OTHER NIXON

 

 

 

Yesterday, Daniel Patrick Moynihan died. Today, the clintons are arrogating his soul. Hardly surprising. In 1999, the clintons were not at all shy about seizing his still-warm senate seat.

One has merely to recall the Jefferson double-helix hoax to understand that posthumous misappropriation is, for the obvious reason, the clintons' preferred method of legacy inflation….

Standard-Issue clintonism

If misappropriation of Jefferson's alleles hinged on a broken line of descent, misappropriation of Moynihan's endorsement depends on a broken line of dissent. Like Sally Hemmings' progeny, Moynihan's later acquiescence is of dubious lineage

Mia T, Moynihan Myths


 



hat is surprising about the clinton-Dole C-SPAN pas de deux is not that clinton demagoguery had gotten so old. What is surprising is that the tautological, specious, gasbag sort of banality that had always been the hallmark of clintonspeak was ever considered interesting or credible in the first place.

The 60-minute C-SPAN reprise of the 60-second 60 Minutes clinton-Dole flop confirmed what the 60 Minutes separate-stages format had plainly suggested: that bill clinton would be wise never to share the stage with Bob Dole.

Bob Dole displayed an easy wit; clinton served up faux-folksy bromides laced with underlying rage with stale carnard-cum-corollary for good measure.

The canard: If a crook doesn't make a profit, then it's not a crime.

The corollary: The government should pursue a crook if, and only if, the crook's take exceeds the government's cost to nail him.

hillary talks: ON CLINTON "FINANCES"

(viewing movie requires Flash Player 7, available HERE)

Casuistry in the service of clinton revisionism....

Posthumous misappropriation is, for the obvious reason, the clintons' preferred method of legacy inflation. While downward revision ("defining deviancy down") is the classic clinton m.o., (see Jefferson double-helix hoax), clinton, exposed, is now arguing the obverse; the double negative offers the illusion of a higher ground.

If the purpose of the canard and corollary is to nullify Whitewater, the purpose of the claim that Ulysses S. Grant was unfairly maligned is to point the clinton hagiographers in the direction of the nonjudgmental... and the non sequitur.

That is, if Grant was unfairly maligned as a drunk, then, according to clinton deconstructionist logic, it follows that clinton was unfairly maligned as a rapist, traitor, perjurer, suborner of perjury, cheat, obstructor of justice, abuser of power, psychopath, corruptor of children, murderer, incompetent, utter failure, proximate cause of 911... take your choice.

HILLARY FLUNKS D.C. BAR EXAM
"the smartest woman in the world" seeks less competitive venue
Mia T, 6.18.05


37 posted on 11/11/2005 6:41:33 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Wolverine

thx :)


38 posted on 11/11/2005 6:42:03 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

What I've always found interesting about Brinkley is what he leaves out :)


39 posted on 11/11/2005 6:43:18 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: cowboyway

He says to Jennings, "I think in history it will all come out in the wash. I think things come out in the wash."

I bet he wishes it did, if you get my Dreft...er... drift.


40 posted on 11/11/2005 6:58:48 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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