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"Mapes should have the honesty and integrity to thank the bloggers for exposing her fake documents. The record shows that the source of the phony documents, Bill Burkett, was an anti-Bush activist who admitted lying about where he got them."
1 posted on 11/10/2005 9:36:48 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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Bill Burkett, was an anti-Bush activist who admitted lying about where he got them."

Dan Rather called the, then anonymous, Burkett an "unimpeachable source".

That's what passes for truth and ethics at CBS News.

2 posted on 11/10/2005 9:43:55 PM PST by RJL
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...Dan Rather was "forced out of his anchor job after angering the White House…"

This is so stupid I have trouble believing anyone said it.

But them Limbaugh was quoting someone today saying what a great American ally Saddam was, and how much better off we were with him.

The loons have started to notice we have won the war, and are trying to rewrite history. Joe and Adolph weren't so bad either. Think how much better off we'd be if we'd let Hitler finish the job.

Amazing.

3 posted on 11/10/2005 9:53:18 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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I hope this book becomes so popular that they won't even be able to give it away.
4 posted on 11/10/2005 9:58:19 PM PST by Just Lori (Tony Schaeffer, Curt Weldon, Able Danger....... PAY ATTENTION.)
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Who's got the schedule?


5 posted on 11/10/2005 9:59:00 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Raoul's First Law of Journalism: BIAS = LAYOFFS)
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SAN FRANCISCO NO LESS.....

Thursday, November 17th @ Noon
WORLD AFFAIRS COUNCIL
Mary Mapes
Truth and Duty

For twenty-five years, Mary Mapes has been an award-winning television producer and reporter—the last fifteen years with CBS News, principally for "The CBS Evening News with Dan Rather" and "60 Minutes." Following the broadcast of Dan Rather's story on George W. Bush's National Guard Service, Ms. Mapes was fired, Dan Rather stepped down from his anchor chair a year early, and an unprecedented "internal" inquiry into the story occurred. In her new book, Truth and Duty, Mary Mapes talks for the first time about the behind-the-scenes action at CBS during this period and exposes: new details on President Bush's Guard career, the connection between a controversial news story and a corporation under fire from the federal government, an emergence of "digital McCarthyism" as conservative bloggers manipulate the internet, and how news organizations are collapsing under political-and commercial-pressures.

Please note: This event will take place at the World Affairs Council, located at 312 Sutter Street, 2nd Floor. Check in is at 5:30 pm. Admission is free for members, $5 for students, and $15 for non-members. For reservations and more information, please call 415-293-4600.

6 posted on 11/10/2005 10:01:55 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Raoul's First Law of Journalism: BIAS = LAYOFFS)
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One of her sources was Killian's commander, Major General Bobby Hodges. Mapes says that Hodges confirmed the contents of the memos to her, ... But Hodges told the CBS panel that he did not confirm the contents of the memos.

I remember that.

On the other hand, it did find that Mapes knew that, contrary to her report, George W. Bush offered to go to Vietnam while in the National Guard unit. This was a critical fact, undermining the entire premise of the CBS News story that Bush went into the National Guard to avoid Vietnam.

She was on O'Reilly tonight, still insinuating that George Bush joined the TANG to avoid Vietnam and saying straight out that he got "preferential treatment."

7 posted on 11/10/2005 10:05:48 PM PST by TigersEye (Happy birthday, Momma P !!! - Nov. 11)
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I did not receive the marching orders from Rove. What, am I chopped liver now?


8 posted on 11/10/2005 10:09:27 PM PST by doug from upland ("Susan Estrich...get off your kneepads" - Juanita Broaddrick)
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The only problem with the Mapes version is that there is absolutely no proof that it is true.

In the delusional alternate universe the Left inhabits, something is true simply if they believe it to be so, want it to be so, and it furthers their agenda. In their warped minds, the onus is on us to prove they are lying. But even when it's been proven that they lied, the proof doesn't matter to them at all, and they continue to lie blatantly and pathologically.

I used to think that liberals lied knowing they were lying. But it's become more than obvious that they truly believe their own lies. They have lied for so long about so many things that it has become as natural to them as breathing. And they have invested so much effort in lying that lies have become their reality. Lies have become the very fabric of their being, and they are incapable of telling the truth. Their consciences, as the Bible says, have been seared with a hot iron.

9 posted on 11/10/2005 10:11:20 PM PST by laz (France, la chaussure est sur l'autre pied, non?)
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I love the title of this thread.


10 posted on 11/10/2005 10:15:19 PM PST by Tempest (I'm a Christian. Before I am a conservative.)
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"...can only diminish the reputation of journalism even more."


I would suggest this is not "journalism" whatsoever.


14 posted on 11/10/2005 11:16:59 PM PST by This Just In ("Those are my principles, if you don't like them, I've got others" - Groucho Marx)
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She calls White House official Karl Rove the "mastermind" of the attacks on her story but admits to the Washington Post that she has no proof of that.

The left never has proof of anything. It's their MO. She still has a large following though. Hey, if ya want 2+2 to equal 5, who am I to argue.

15 posted on 11/10/2005 11:18:40 PM PST by Fruitbat
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Jim, apparently CBS News is sending the following to tv personalites before they interview Mapes about her book.


The CBS News response to her appearance on GMA: This was apparently sent by CBS to Larry King yesterday, and he read it before he interviewed Mapes. Apparently O'Reilly got the same response from CBS News before Mapes was on his show.

"(After yesterday's Mapes' Good Morning America appearance, CBS issued the following statement, which Larry King read to Mapes last night):

"KING: We're here with Mary Mapes, the book "Truth and Duty, the Press, the President and the Privilege of Power." CBS News gave us this statement today.

"Mary Mapes' actions damaged CBS News as an organizational and brought pain to many colleagues with whom she worked. Her disregard for journalistic standards -- and for her colleagues -- comes through loud and clear in her interviews and in the book that attempts to rewrite the history of this complex and sad affair.

As always, revisionist history must be tested against the facts. Not only are those facts contained in the extensive media coverage that took place at the time, but also in the 200-plus-page report of the independent panel which investigated the matter for more than three months.

We believe those facts speak for themselves. The idea that a news organization would not need to authenticate such important source material is only one of the troubling and erroneous statement in her account."

(Mapes only reply was: CBS has been working on that statement for months.)


16 posted on 11/10/2005 11:29:30 PM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM/RATs need to set a timetable for withdrawal in their illegitimate war on Bush. It's a quagmire.)
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To: mhking; nutmeg; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Howlin; Miss Marple; kcvl; Cindy; backhoe

fyi and ping lists


17 posted on 11/10/2005 11:30:56 PM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM/RATs need to set a timetable for withdrawal in their illegitimate war on Bush. It's a quagmire.)
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26 posted on 11/11/2005 2:39:32 AM PST by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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Dumbest Q&A Award. (Nov. 10)

Bill O'Reilly: Are you a Conservative or liberal?

Mary Mapes: I don't know.


27 posted on 11/11/2005 2:54:46 AM PST by RetSignman
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I caught Mapes last night on the O'Reilly factor, and I was amazed at how sure she is that this story is true, that she was sure that her "evidence" was good, and how she worked for 4 years on the story. Not a good thing in a reporter.

It really puts into perspective just how much the left hates President Bush, and how they are driven to try to destroy him. It's become a religious crusade to many, like Mapes.

Mark


31 posted on 11/11/2005 4:22:57 AM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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“Bill Burkett, was an anti-Bush activist who admitted lying about where he got them.”

But so is the MSM... and that's the bigger problem.

33 posted on 11/11/2005 4:30:14 AM PST by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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She made a huge ass of herself on O'reilly, although he didn't have the guts to call her a lying RAT hack.


45 posted on 11/11/2005 11:18:55 AM PST by ozzymandus
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One would've hoped that Pravda had folded when the Soviet Union disintegrated, but its American affiliate, CBS, lives on.


49 posted on 11/11/2005 4:44:27 PM PST by KamperKen
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MoonBats never learn!


54 posted on 11/11/2005 7:15:13 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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