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To: pigdog
Sorry, dude (or dudette as the case may be), eliminate means eliminate.

Sorry dupe (or dupette as the case may be) it doesn't eliminate a damn thing. It's not possible for a law to amend the Constitution. You can look it up in any copy of the Constitution you can find.

You might need a remedial high school constitution course.

But nice try. I used to think you guys were ignorant, but I'm starting to lean toward you guys wanting both taxes. Just more big government advocates looking to expand their favorite thugocracy.

If you purposely do it backwards, what other conclusion?

104 posted on 11/14/2005 12:59:00 PM PST by Protagoras (To keep freedom, you must give it away)
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To: Protagoras
Re: the farttax bill repeals the 16th amendment.

Have you ever seen a complex bill report out of a body of congress the way it was read in? And, have you ever seen a complex piece of legislation reported out of conference committee the way it was introduced?

Aren't the farttaxers quite naïve? You wouldn't think so based on their bloviation, but on the other hand, are they just trying to pull a fast one on the American people?
105 posted on 11/14/2005 1:22:01 PM PST by Final Authority
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To: Protagoras

Sounds like you are being intentionally obtuse.

Pigdog didn't say HR25 would eliminate the 16th. He said it eliminates the IRS. Which it does. It requires the IRS be stripped of funding. It requires all income tax records be destroyed.

Also, the 16th doesn't REQUIRE an income tax. It only allows for one. If you require that the 16th be repealed BEFORE implementing a new tax system, then what will fund the government during the gap ? Or do you mean the repeal must happen simultaneously ?

Finally, remember that it doesn't take HR25 or anything else to allow for a National Retail Sales Tax. Congress could implement one any time they felt like it. In addition to the Income Tax. After all, is there really any difference between the current excise taxes on gasoline, tobacco, and alcohol ? They are just targeted Sales Taxes.

You seem fixated on the fear of ending up with both income and sales taxes. We have both already. The FairTax is a movement to eliminate the first and rely only on the second.


106 posted on 11/14/2005 1:31:16 PM PST by Kellis91789
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