San Francisco Voters Approve Handgun Ban

Washington Post ^ | Wednesday, November 9, 2005 | LOUISE CHU

[cougar_mccxxi]

SAN FRANCISCO -- Voters approved ballot measures to ban handguns in San Francisco and urge the city's public high schools and college campuses to keep out military recruiters.

The gun ban prohibits the manufacture and sale of all firearms and ammunition in the city, and makes it illegal for residents to keep handguns in their homes or businesses.

Only two other major U.S. cities _ Washington and Chicago _ have implemented such sweeping handgun bans.

[MizSterious]

I don't know if it's still true, but SF used to have its own gang problems awhile back. They used to be pretty well-armed. If they are still there, I have no doubt that in short order they will pretty much own the place.

[fish hawk]

Does this mean that if I am driving from Eureka Calif. down to see relatives in S. Calif. I have to drive around S.F. if I have my gun in the car?

[mvpel]

Sure looks that way, doesn't it?

[NorCalRepub]

I could only find 2002....and as much as I dispise the politics of SF....there are many many cities with much higher crimes indices then SF......and most big cities in Texas rank higher...so who knows?????.

http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/crime3.aspx

[Clemenza]

That's because other than Hunter's Point, San Fran does not have any "Ghettos" anymore. Affluent, yuppies and Gays typically don't go around shooting eachother over drug distribution rights. Seattle has shall-issue concealed carry, but also has a low murder rate largely for the same reason.

Its culture that causes certain areas to be more criminal, not the availability of firearms or lack thereof. Nevertheless, even if I lived in a crime free paradise, I would like to have my protection just in case a thug passes through, whether they be a criminal or a representative of a despotic government.

[El Gato]

The military recruiter ban should be cause to withdraw all federal (and if it applied to the CA National Guard, state) funding from San Francisco schools. And while we are at it, federal funding for their police and other "public safety" departments for violating the second amendment rights of US Citizens, assuming their are any of those in San Francisco.

[NorCalRepub]

yes...I agree with you wholeheartedly.....just answering the guy's question...I live in the East Bay....and though still a Dem bastion is hardly SF.....I've had no problem owning firearms in Calif and I"ve lived in the Bay Area, San Diego and parts of the LA basin..though getting a CCW is harder in metro areas....SF homeless are a bigger problem then the crime stats per se

[Clemenza]

In New York, you need to APPLY FOR PERMISSION to merely OWN a handgun. This is not the case in California.

[Double Tap]

San Francisco has done this before. They can't enforce it as they don't have authority to do it. The state of California holds exclusive authority to regulate firarms in the state. This has already been settled.

I don't have a clue what the city thinks it is doing, but if all goes as it did in the 80's, they will lose again.

[Steve_Seattle]

"The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has decided, in their infinite(simal) wisdom that the Second Amendment is a "collective right," not individual, and the Supreme Court has declined to hear an appeal."

Making it the ONLY "collective" right in the Bill of Rights. Just goes to show you that liberal dishonesty knows NO LIMITS. A right to abortion - nowhere mentioned in the Constitution, and routinely proscribed by state law for 200 years, is now a "fundamental constitutional right;" the right to bear arms, explicitly mentioned in the Constitution, and assumed by most ordinary Americans to be a basic right, is deemed NOT a constitutional right. BULL****!!!

[NorCalRepub]

really?????......hmmm....even more restrictive. Get out of the big cities and not a problem...in fact as you most likely well know....most of Calif north of SF and Central Valley etc are like most any other small towns in Anywhere USA.....but many out of state don't even realize how rural etc much of Calif is.....they only see the goofy Leftists...and there are enough of them to swing the vote.....DAMN!!!!!!!!!!

[mvpel]

You're damn right it is!

That's why Californians need all the help they can get, right now, to put the right to keep and bear arms into the state constitution - http://www.tacr.us/

[Clemenza]

The coast from Mendocino down to LA are the "bluest of blue" zones.

NY, on the other hand, is hopeless. The rural areas are bleeding population while the city grows. Plus, there are no real "conservative" districts in NY, whereas California has (rather large) pockets of conservatism. Add to the fact that most NY Republicans are anti-gun and you see why I have divided feelings about returning to my home state.

[Walkingfeather]

I am sure those peace loving citizens from Oakland are licking their chops. Fools.

[Babu]

no surprises here, from Moscow by the Bay ...

[NorCalRepub]

you are right on....and you do know your stuff...I've lived in Calif most of my life though I've been to 40 other states...and though SF and LA are political cesspools, the whole of Calif is not that bad at all except for the housing prices....I live in Contra Costa and have a great life and only earn about 70k/yr.....and not much of this crap effects me....though I will say that I have no children and bringing up kids here is a much tougher nut....hell....I went to public schools here thru the mid 70s and got a great education.......NO MORE though....

[dinodino]

This is good news indeed! This should bring gun use in crime to a sudden, screeching halt! What ever will the criminals do now that they can't use guns?

[silentreignofheroes]

Who cares , We shoot dogs for fun,And we know easy Targets.Screw the West Coast. Let's get Serious.

[Texas_Jarhead]

Attention armed criminals, Attention armed criminals

Unarmed suckers just waiting to be had.

[calex59]

Does this mean that if I am driving from Eureka Calif. down to see relatives in S. Calif. I have to drive around S.F. if I have my gun in the car?

If you have a CCW they cannot do anything to you in SF. However if you don't have a CCW you better have it in a lock box when you go though and it might be a good idea to avoid SF altogether.