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1 posted on 11/09/2005 11:50:22 AM PST by big'ol_freeper
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Why would Walmart be concerned about the Visigoths and the details of worshipping Baal?

Letter - Bunk

361 posted on 11/09/2005 3:19:13 PM PST by muleskinner
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Here's another tidbit. When Oliver Cromwell was Lord Protector, Christmas was essentially outlawed in England. Businessmen were forced to stay open for business.

The Puritans in early American refused to celebrate Christmas, believing that it was from the devil. Christmas came to the USA primarily with Catholic immigrants.


365 posted on 11/09/2005 3:33:17 PM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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366 posted on 11/09/2005 3:36:12 PM PST by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: big'ol_freeper

Many places say Happy Holidays, I respond with Merry Christmas. Political Correctness is going to kill this country. Nobody seems to have the wherewithall to stand up for what they believe, easier to patronize the few I guess.


373 posted on 11/09/2005 3:46:29 PM PST by Burlem
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And, watch out when there is a disaster ... mean old Wal-mart won't contribute anything.
377 posted on 11/09/2005 3:54:38 PM PST by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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"Walmart is a world wide organization and must remain conscious of this. The majority of the world still has different practices other than ‘christmas’ which is an ancient tradition that has its roots in Siberian shamanism. The colors associated with ‘christmas’ red and white are actually a representation of of the aminita mascera mushroom. Santa is also borrowed from the Caucuses, mistletoe from the Celts, yule log from the Goths, the time from the Visigoth and the tree from the worship of Baal. It is a wide wide world.”

To which Catholic League president Bill Donohue says: “This statement was signed by someone called Kirby. When I read it, I thought he might be drunk. But I was wrong. We sent Kirby’s response to Wal-Mart’s headquarters only to find that Dan Fogleman, Senior Manager, Public Relations, agrees. After acknowledging that he read Kirby’s response, Fogleman said, in part, the following”:

“As a retailer, we recognize some of our customers may be shopping for Chanukah or Kwanza gifts during this time of year and we certainly want these customers in our stores and to feel welcome, just as we do those buying for Christmas. As an employer, we recognize the significance of the Christmas holiday among our family of associates…and close our stores in observance, the only day during the year that we are closed.”

Sad. The colors red and white are part of Christian symbolism as well which should need no explanation. You find them on the flag of medieval England, known as the Cross of St. George and on the Holy Shroud. The garments of St. Nicholas (red and white) have nothing to do with Siberian pagan shamanism.


379 posted on 11/09/2005 4:02:13 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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Perhaps as part of the "boycott", WalMart should
be renamed 'SatanMart'?

>Bo)


389 posted on 11/09/2005 4:48:29 PM PST by NickatNite2003
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I have no idea about this email, but I was in a WalMart just today. The main Holiday/Christmas section had CHRISTMAS CAROLS playing. Not secular music, Christ-mas music.


391 posted on 11/09/2005 4:56:11 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Take the high road. You'll never have to meet a Democrat.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

That "Wal-Mart is a world wide....." paragraph didn't address the company's rationale for using "Happy Holidays" instead of Merry Christmas.


395 posted on 11/09/2005 5:06:05 PM PST by tob2 (Old Fossil and Proud of It!)
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The colors associated with ‘christmas’ red and white are actually a representation of of the aminita mascera mushroom.

I thought it was red and green, what kind of mushroom is that?

398 posted on 11/09/2005 5:18:02 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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Walmart had their Christmas sh** on the shelves in September. Walmart loves Christmas!


408 posted on 11/09/2005 7:50:46 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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I'd look for the union label on this email. Does not sound right.


411 posted on 11/09/2005 8:08:10 PM PST by MontanaBeth (Never under estimate the enemy.)
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To: big'ol_freeper
The majority of the world still has different practices other than ‘christmas’ which is an ancient tradition that has its roots in Siberian shamanism. The colors associated with ‘christmas’ red and white are actually a representation of of the aminita mascera mushroom. Santa is also borrowed from the Caucuses, mistletoe from the Celts, yule log from the Goths, the time from the Visigoth and the tree from the worship of Baal. It is a wide wide world.”

No way was this a genuine Wal-mart customer service e-mail. No freaking way.

413 posted on 11/09/2005 8:10:59 PM PST by Sloth (You being wrong & me being closed-minded are not the same thing, nor are they mutually exclusive.)
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Good grief...who else is Walmart "catering to"? Are there hundreds of Super Walmarts in the middle east? I know for a fact that there are some in Mexico, and a couple in Germany.

Mexicans celebrate Christmas bigtime. And so do most Germans. And here in the USA, it's the big holiday for most of the citizens. So why would a large chain such as Walmart have to cater to a handful of customers rather than the majority? My point: if someone is not Christian and abhors the display of Christmas decos etc, don't shop at Walmart! Period. Change the damn channel if you object to strong language. I'm sick to death of these crybabies.

More liberalism run amuck.


419 posted on 11/10/2005 4:58:01 AM PST by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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Why would you think that a Chicom retailer like Walmart should celebrate Christmas?


432 posted on 11/10/2005 7:55:45 AM PST by jpsb
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What a bunch of bull. I'm a Christian (your typical hard-drinking Epicopalian now on the outs with my own church for its shennanigans). I just looked at the link, and the secondary link which reveals bunches of Christmas items. I also searched for kwanza and hanukkah and looked at those results. I'm not offended.
Is this a Catholic League diversionary tactic to take the heat off that Church's internal problems?
To quote John Stossel, "give me a break!"


441 posted on 11/10/2005 10:40:23 AM PST by MadJack
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I don't know if this story is true or not. When I put into the search engine at Walmart the information it was as you said. So I just wrote my own complaint to Walmart (If I get an answer I will post it):

I just saw a article complaining that you have things listed for Kwanzaa (77 items) and Hanukkah (200 items), but not for Christmas (We've brought you to our "Holiday " page based on your search). Since I don't always believe what I read on the internet I went to your on-line page and sure enough that is correct. Since when is it OK to discriminate against Christians for our holiday of Christmas. How is our holiday any less important than Hanukkah or Kwanzaa. Either list holiday for everyone ones holiday - or list Christmas for what it is! We, who believe in Jesus Christ, have no less rights! Jean

As I said I will let you know if there is a response. Maybe if enough of us complain it will change their policy - it has been known to happen especially on free republic!

442 posted on 11/10/2005 10:59:25 AM PST by GrandmaC
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Saw this on John Gibson today. I, too, thought someone was drunk, just not me. Though, I rightly predicted, the employee who wrote the letter wouldn't be an employee for very long, even with initial backing-up by the honchos.


444 posted on 11/10/2005 9:03:25 PM PST by cgk (Card-Carrying, Dues-Paying Member of the VCBC {Vast Conservative Base Conspiracy})
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Wal Mart kicked out the ass who wrote the email
446 posted on 11/10/2005 11:48:19 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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As I stated yesterday I sent an e-mail to Wal-Mart, as many of you did. This is the response. I did test it and there are now 7967 items listed under Christmas. WAY TO GO FREE REPUBLIC!!!!

Here is the e-mail they sent today:

Thank you for your message.
Thank you for your inquiry.

Wal-Mart recognizes Christmas, as well as many other traditional holidays. As you visit our website, you'll discover we have nearly 8,000 Christmas items being offered for sale. (Just search the word Christmas.)

The winter months are filled with holidays -- from Thanksgiving through New Year's and including Christmas, Hanukah, Kwanza and others that are celebrated by many of our 130 million customers who shop our stores each week and our family of 1.3 million associates. We want the holiday season to be special for everyone, regardless of which holidays they celebrate.

We do not have a written policy that requires associates to say Happy Holidays, however it is something we have instructed our stores to say when answering the phone, for example, and our marketing signs also say Holiday Savings. This is because we include all Holidays during the Holiday season, not just Christmas. This includes Thanksgiving, Dia de Los Muertos, Dia de Virgin de Guadalupe, Los Posadas, Christmas Eve, Christmas, Chanukah, Kwanza, New Years Eve, New Years, etc. We are a country of immense diversity and we want to ensure that we are welcoming customers with an inclusive greeting which would be appreciated by people of all backgrounds.

After reviewing suggestions received from our customers, we have changed certain search results on our retail web site. When visitors to walmart.com enter the word "Christmas" in the home page search bar, they will be directly linked to over 7,900 Christmas items. This search function mirrors the search process for all other holidays, such as Hanukkah and Kwanzaa.

We hope this change will further welcome customers of all faiths, and celebrants of all holidays to walmart.com.

Thank you,
Customer Relations

449 posted on 11/11/2005 10:39:46 AM PST by GrandmaC
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