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Michael Barone's Analysis on The 2005 Election Results
USNews & World Report ^ | November 9, 2005 | Michael Barone

Posted on 11/09/2005 10:44:17 AM PST by new yorker 77

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To: madprof98
I mean, what kind of people would NOT want to be notified if their kids were having an abortion???

They're called 'Californians.'

21 posted on 11/09/2005 1:02:38 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: new yorker 77
Membership in, or candidacy representing, the Republican Party means nothing because the party has no core principles, no uncompromisable positions.

Therefore, nobody will go to the mat for Republicans, because odds are (as they've demonstrated the last 5 years) they'll just roll over and become Big Government weasels.

Normal people have more important things to do than support opportunistic parasites.

22 posted on 11/09/2005 1:05:48 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: HitmanNY
I mean, what kind of people would NOT want to be notified if their kids were having an abortion???

They're called 'Californians.'

Don't paint with such a broad brush. Just a shade under 50% of us voted for this proposition.

23 posted on 11/09/2005 1:07:26 PM PST by Yossarian (The media is now simply running a 24/7 soap opera with Dubya cast as the arch villain.)
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To: madprof98

I agree with you! I am not sure what the heck happened here!


24 posted on 11/09/2005 1:08:13 PM PST by ladyinred ("Progressive" = code word for Communist/Nazi)
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To: Yossarian

Fair enough, but they clearly won the day, leaving pro life social conservatives falling flat on their....


25 posted on 11/09/2005 1:11:15 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: madprof98; HitmanNY
I mean, what kind of people would NOT want to be notified if their kids were having an abortion???

Many California Democrats don't even want to be notified that they have kids. ;)

26 posted on 11/09/2005 1:15:10 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (Speaking several languages is an asset; keeping your mouth shut in one is priceless.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

You got me there!


27 posted on 11/09/2005 1:20:58 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: threeleftsmakearight

So when Lindsey Graham, Lamar Alexander, Liddy Dole, and John Cornyn won their senate seats in 2002, they were status quo results, not wins, because they were replacing Republicans? I'm not buying that argument at all. What it says is that there's no way to read these elections as ever being negative for Republicans.


28 posted on 11/09/2005 1:22:02 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The 2001 election brought us up to 64-34-2 in the House of Delegates. It was the first post-redistricting election, but we still did really well all over the state.

In 2003, a few Democrats won three seats in northern Virginia from Republicans. J. Chapman Peterson was one of them, his set was considered fairly Republican. That took us to 61-37-2.

After Thelma Drake went to Congress, Paula Miller won her seat in Hampton Roads in a special election. One more Democrat.

This time, it looks like Democrats took three more seats in northern Virginia while Republicans took two seats in the rural south. I don't remember how the independents played out.

However, 2001 was definitely a high-water mark for Republicans in the Virginia House of Delegates, because we finally got the countryside on the same page as the suburbanites. Then the suburbanites started to get worried and have been bleeding out of the party in NoVa. That's the trend I see.


29 posted on 11/09/2005 1:27:44 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: madprof98

The San Francisco region. has become a sinkhole of people with --dare I say it--unAmerican views.


30 posted on 11/09/2005 1:36:09 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: HostileTerritory

Thanks for the correction, my faulty memory really let me down.

I think the democrats have been good at running conservative democrats in republican areas to win back the seats which they lost after redistricting.

Also, the conservatives got cocky because we have such a big lead, and started targeting the moderate republicans in some of those seats. I think it is only natural, there isn't much point in having a 20-seat majority if it is going to roll over on tax increases.


31 posted on 11/09/2005 1:36:46 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

"Sean Connaughton. He ran for Attorney General in the primary, and was opposed by a majority of the republicans in the county committee."

He ran for Lt. Governor vs Bill Bolling and lost.


32 posted on 11/09/2005 1:37:12 PM PST by DarthVader (Do something positive for your country today: Punch an America hating leftie in the mouth.)
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To: Torie

"Kaine was mayor of Richmond (and a very talented and successful one, ...."

Never lived in Richmond, I assume ?


33 posted on 11/09/2005 1:48:01 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Dan from Michigan; AuH2ORepublican; JohnnyZ; Clintonfatigued

I have been somewhat alarmed at the drip-drip-drip erosion of GOP strength in NOVA. We've been dropping a seat or two in that area at the legislative level each cycle (and not just a win of open Republican seats, but knocking off incumbents). Although we've been picking off a seat elsewhere from old-line rural Democrats, we still lost a seat in VA and inexplicably failed to retake the House seat held by now-Congresswoman Thelma Drake.

As for New Jersey, while Barone said the state may be a tad more Republican than 4 years ago, we continued an erosion in legislative seats, losing 2 more Assembly seats (and after the outcome of a seat with a GOP candidate leading, could either be a 16 or 18 seat disparity - contrasting greatly when we were at or near par just 4 years ago). Despite Corzine's win, I expected the GOP to at least make some legislative gains on the heels of the Democrat scandals, and we ended up with bubkas.

All in all, a very disappointing election.


34 posted on 11/09/2005 3:28:02 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (*Fightin' the system like a $2 hooker on crack*)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Fairfax alarms me a little, but not that much. Loudoun and Prince William is another story. That hits too close to home.(exurbs)
35 posted on 11/09/2005 3:31:19 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("I got a shotgun and a rifle and a four wheel drive and a country boy can survive")
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To: Torie
"Kaine was mayor of Richmond (and a very talented and successful one, and I think that helped him in this race statewide)"

Prior to the current mayor and ex-VA Gov L. Douglas Wilder, a Richmond Mayor was little more than a figurehead. Kaine certainly had no record to crow about and was pretty much an empty suit being groomed to the top job by his RINO daddy-in-law, Linwood Holton (very similar to the equally unaccomplished Rod Blagojevich in IL, who also had a very politically powerful father-in-law in Chicago Alderman Dick Mell). His rise to Governor was sheer luck, benefitting from the RINO kneecapping of Mark Earley in '01, allowing a very narrow victory when he won the #2 job (that, ironically, could've been averted by a Bush appearance in the final days of that contest - a stark contrast to the absolutely nil-effect it had over the weekend), and our failing to stop him there, the blame this time around could squarely be laid at the feet of a horrible campaign on behalf of Kilgore.

36 posted on 11/09/2005 3:47:40 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (*Fightin' the system like a $2 hooker on crack*)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Connaughton was widely regarded as a RINO. I tend to be wary of these code-words, such as "mainstream", which usually means they are anything but Conservative. The media attempted to even apply that to Russ (Crack) Potts, and by any stretch, the guy was not only not mainstream or moderate, he was a Weldite RINO (to the left of even a lot of average VA 'Rats). I was sorry to see Crack Potts not take more votes from Kaine.


37 posted on 11/09/2005 3:53:47 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (*Fightin' the system like a $2 hooker on crack*)
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To: Dan from Michigan

My cousins live in Leesburg (Loudoun) after having moved from Manassas (Prince William). Alas, as like most of my family, they are NOT Republican.


38 posted on 11/09/2005 3:54:58 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (*Fightin' the system like a $2 hooker on crack*)
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To: HostileTerritory

Thanks for putting out the hard numbers. I believe 3 Independents won this time around. It's hard to not notice that decline for us (and we effectively in '01 were at 66, since both Independents organized with the Republicans). If the 'Rats continue to increase by 2 seats or so each election, they could conceivably return to the majority within a decade (something unimaginable only 4 years ago). It will be absolutely imperative the GOP takes back the Governor's office in '09 so that we can be in complete control to draw the lines to stamp out this 'Rat growth before it chokes us again.


39 posted on 11/09/2005 4:02:02 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (*Fightin' the system like a $2 hooker on crack*)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Those aren't Conservative 'Rats, they're liberals. What few Conservative 'Rats are left are the old dying rural pols, and they're almost extinct as it is. And why should those Republican districts have to put up with liberal RINO twits that vote the WRONG way on the issues ? We have those kind of idiots south of the border here in TN, and they only give aid and comfort to an undemocratic and unrepresentative 'Rat-controlled government. Time to oust every last damn one of them.


40 posted on 11/09/2005 4:06:04 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (*Fightin' the system like a $2 hooker on crack*)
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