Posted on 11/09/2005 7:02:46 AM PST by NativeNewYorker
Well, why not? Seems reasonable to me.
Incuding native-born American Muslims?
Then it would be time to officially declare war on Islam. First target Mecca and Medina.
You, sir, have derailed.
With the current support of Islam by our government and the other Lefty governments around the world we have absolutely no prayer of winning.
In the last 5 years or so, we have killed several tens of thousands of Muslims around the world.
Tell me, exactly, how our government is supporting Islam around the world?
It's us against the criminals, the Lefties, and the Muslims.
The feeling that the world is out to get you is a classic sign of clinical paranoia.
That's quite a conspiracy. So, Osama Bin Laden, Michael Moore and the Mafia are all engaged in a plot to destroy America?
BTW, 48% of the American population voted for John Kerry. Do you want to deport them, too?
Are insults all you are capable of.
By identifying themselves as a moslem, every moslem becomes a sworn enemy of the United States. They are either actively fighting against us or will soon be actively fighting against us. Since the scriptures of islam command them to fight against all non-moslems ( and we are non-moslem) they are our enemies. Therefore, there is no such thing as an innocent moslem, there are only moslem terrorists who haven't struck yet.
There is no other religion or political system that this can be said about.
Islam is the enemy
Yes. I've found them to be very pleasant people for the most part until you start discussing what their scriptures command them to do. Then they become very unpleasant.
Since I've read their scriptures I have no further need to talk to them. I know what they believe and what they will eventually do if they get strong enough.
Islam is the enemy
You are an individualist to an extreme. The jihadis are collectivist to the extreme.
George Washington's letter was to Jews who were not engaged in Jihad or unethical monotheism. Jews and Muslims are on opposite ends of the spectrum.
To equate Muslims with Jews is pure sophistry! When you have to use sophistry to prop up your arguments you are on the losing side it.
Why don't you just come out and admit that you are for the Muslims and their jihad around the world?
FC
Does declaring oneself to be an enemy of the United States during wartime qualify as violating the law (I'm honestly asking , I don't remember how the treason/sedition laws are written) If so, then all moslems have violated the law by declaring themselves to be moslem
Fortunately even the German government affords people basic rights to talk to counsel, and hear the charges put forth against them. Collective punishment using economic tools works, but even though the French think differently. I am starting to feel like a broken record: US soldiers died to drag Germany and France out of National Socialism. And now we have Americans encouraging and condoning the EXACT behaviour that many paid the ultimate price to eradicate from that continent. When Germany and France re-start the roundups, the will indeed be very indiscriminate. And the Jews will be first because if there are no Jews, the Muzzies will settle down. Enough to make Stalin appear a philanthropist.
I doubt it. People can more or less say whatever they want, so long as they do not engage in illegal acts.
If so, then all moslems have violated the law by declaring themselves to be moslem
Whatever makes you say that? A Muslim would need to specifically state that he is an enemy of the US, rather than simply being part of a religion which has some tenets that can be interpreted as being anti-American.
What if a Muslim said that he is a believing Muslim, but that he is not an enemy of America?
No the question is if one religion, Christianity, that has been shown to be in total compatibility with the Constitution and the ideals of the founding fathers is better than a political system, islam, that is sworn to destroy this country and everything it stands for.
Until you understand that islam seeks to destroy the western world and that ALL islamics are commanded to seek that goal it's useless to speak to you. (I just can't teach someone who refuses to learn)
The question is whether it is acceptable to punish the innocent along with the guilty.
There are no innocent moslems. They are all enemies of the US
Islam is the enemy
You're entitled to your opinion.
They are either actively fighting against us or will soon be actively fighting against us.
There is no evidence of this.
Since the scriptures of islam command them to fight against all non-moslems ( and we are non-moslem) they are our enemies.
They are not our enemies unless they act on those scriptures.
Therefore, there is no such thing as an innocent moslem, there are only moslem terrorists who haven't struck yet.
We do not punish people for crimes they haven't committed yet.
I have no idea what you mean by this.
George Washington's letter was to Jews who were not engaged in Jihad or unethical monotheism.
You missed the point of the letter. Not surprising.
Here's another letter, this time from Jefferson:
Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.
Unethical monotheism?
To equate Muslims with Jews is pure sophistry!
When have I done that?
Why don't you just come out and admit that you are for the Muslims and their jihad around the world?
Have you stopped beating your wife yet?
I like your thinking!
Repeating a claim over and over again doesn't actually serve as proof of such claim.
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