Posted on 11/09/2005 7:02:46 AM PST by NativeNewYorker
Berlin (dpa) - A far-right party in Germany said Wednesday that foreigners living in the country should be put into ``collection camps'' and then expelled if French-style violence breaks out.
The National Democratic Party of Germany (NPD), which last year won 9.2 per cent of the vote in Saxony state and has 12 seats in the regional parliament, called for laws aimed at reducing the population of resident foreigners.
Germany has about 7.3 million foreigners who comprise some 9 per cent of the total population.
``If riots are organised like in France then collection camps and vigilantes must be organised in time to protect life and property,'' said the NPD.
Deportation does only mean death for them if when they get to their home country they are put to death. Deportation back to their home countries does not mean we murder them first THEN send them back. It means detain them by keeping them alive, then send them back alive, and then letting their country deal with them. If they murder their own citizens big deal.
I didn't see the internment camps in this country during WWII for the Japanese West Coasters result in their murders. Bad logic.
FC
And Jordan won't take the Arab refugees in Israel (aka Palestinians) that 70 percent of them have family there.
FC
Not a very principled looking principal.
This is a letter I wrote criticizing an article that compared European intolerance of Muslims to the intolerance of Jews that led to the Holocaust.
That is a false analogy.
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This article often equates European intolerance of Jews, which led to their being slaughtered in the Holocaust, with a supposedly dangerous present day intolerance of Muslims. This is multicultural nonsense. You have inverted the moral obligations.
The Jews of Europe prior to WW2 were not violent, committed no terrorism and made no death threats. They committed no 9/11, Madrid or London bombings, nor did they kill film directors, politicians or issue Fatwas against authors and those that dare criticize them. They declared no Jihads. Mass murderers like Osama bin Laden, Yasser Arafat, Saddam and Khomeini were not Jewish heroes. They did not seek to convert others by the sword or believe murder was justified as a means to an end. Jews only 'crime' was that they existed.
The Jews of Europe were innocent victims. Many Muslims, Islamists and others who partake in the death cult of Jihad, or applaud it, are not.
The only analogy that works here is that those who don't actively oppose Jihad, Islamists, their death cult, and the supporters of the death cult, are guilty of crimes of omission the way much of Europe stood by and did nothing, exhibiting skads of tolerance, as the Third Reich committed its atrocities. European Christians and Jews who have done nothing wrong but open up their lands for opportunity and sanctuary should not undermine their own societies by tolerating the very barbarisms these immigrants fled. Muslims as co-religionists with the likes of Osama bin Laden, who claims to be acting in the name of Islam, have the added onus to denounce him and all he stands for.
Intolerance here is the equal of intolerance of the Nazis.
Gotta run; it's been fun!
Islam is at war with America and every other non-Muslim. Do you not understand that? What do suggest we do with a people/culture that is at war with America namely the Muslims? When the numbers of Muslims in America grow large enough you will see us go up in flames like France. You will see suicide bombings like Israel. You will see the gang rape of women by Muslims in the streets to get to convert (and slash their breasts off if they refuse) like the Sudan.
They are just waiting for the critical mass to be reached. Even though the Muslims aren't acting out YET in America that does not mean that they are not at war with us. If you believe the opposite you are naive, ill-informed, ignorant, or deluded.
FC
Ok. But do you know how it is implemented in Islamic countries?
If you have read the history and the Koran and have no problem with it then you must be for implement Sharia and Islam in this country.
FC
I'll post below a couple highlights from an interesting poll done in the British Muslim community after the bombings. Six percent radicals represents a significant number of potential terrorists, but imo the bigger problem, and one which can be dealt with, are the 24% sympathetic and 56% sympathetic. That's what provides the radicals communities in which to operate. A similar UK survey I can’t locate right now came to similar conclusions. Different questions, but as I recall around 8% were supportive of and willing to engage in terrorist operations, an additional 30% indicated they wouldn’t, but wouldn’t cooperate with authorities in apprehending the perpetrators.
88 per cent of British Muslims clearly have no intention of trying to justify the bus and Tube murders.
six per cent insist that the bombings were, on the contrary, fully justified.
respondents who, while not condoning the London attacks, have some sympathy with the feelings and motives of those who carried them out is considerably larger - 24 per cent.
A substantial majority, 56 per cent, say that, whether or not they sympathise with the bombers, they can at least understand why some people might want to behave in this way.
almost three quarters of British Mulsims, 73 per cent, say they would inform the police if they believed that someone they knew or knew of might be planning a terrorist attack.
47 per cent say they would also go to the police if they believed an imam or other religious person was trying to radicalise young Muslims by preaching hatred against the West.
70 per cent of Muslims reckon they have a duty to go to the police if they "see something in the community that makes them feel suspicious".
NPD, Famous for skinheads. It is possible that one day they might get a cabinet seat. After all, who ever expected the Greem Party to be where they are. Just 5% of the national vote and their are in the Bundestag.
Whether they are "far" right I suppose depends upon how far left one is on the political spectrum. I can say one thing, though, the National Democratic Party of Germany (NPD) has this issue nailed like no other.
Round up and deport. It's the only way for any Western country to survive.
"Sometimes I visualize it as a circle rather than a spectrum, where the furthest radical leftists, and the furthest radical rightists are really not far apart, not far at all. "
Me too. That's why the far left is now allied with the Islamists and the isolationists.
NPD - National Democratic Party
Green Party - Watermellons (Green on the outside, Red on the inside)
Whether Green, Progressive, DemocRAT, Socialist, Workers, or Fascist all represent the Left.
If have heard that if you want to be a neo-Nazi in this country you have to join the Democrat Party.
FC
The Muslims are allied with the Lefties. Where evere you see a sychophant for the Muslims you will find Lefties. Go to Front Page Magazine. They have lots of articles to support this.
FC
Sure. Through violence. I have no illusions about the history of Islam.
If you have read the history and the Koran and have no problem with it then you must be for implement Sharia and Islam in this country.
Whatever are you talking about? Islam is, and will remain, the religion of a very small percentage of people in this country. The chances of us seeing Sharia in this country are slim and none.
For most American muslims, like the Japanese internees, German and Japanese as well, they're alrealy in their country. They're US citizens. The only group of non US citizens I can think of were European Jews, who were deported after the war. The majority of the growth in the Muslim population in the US is through converts.
You have to confront the ideaology, there's no one to deport. Clearly the NPD would come up with "different" solutions, as would their moral counterparts in the US, the National Alliance, KKK, Christian Identity movement, Stormfrontersbrother's, et al.
Cherrypicking the ideology of the NPD is a foolish as the once suggested tactic of the Republican party embracing the "acceptable" notions of David Duke, to bring in his suupporters.
National SOCIALIST Party.
Their slogan was "Arbeit Macht Frei" (Work Will Set You Free).
Ever heard of the Social Workers Party in this country?
Unions, composed of workers, tilt way to the Left and give big money to the DemocRATS.
Lefties.
"Yeah, I know all about it. I recommend Iris Chang's book."
Now it's time to read Michelle Malkin's book "In Defense of Internment: The Case for 'Racial Profiling' in World War II and the War on Terror"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0895260514/qid=1131565381/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/102-9072403-2533700?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
The Lefties are supporting the Islamofascists because the latter also seek to undermine capitalism.
Very interesting. Six % is troubling, but note that it is not 6% who would do it themselves, thank goodness. I wonder how many of those who would not cooperate with authorities do it out of fear of retribution? It would be interesting to see comparative numbers, for example, in a crime ridden area to see what that percentage is.
No reported cases of Japanese civilians committing sabotage in World War II. On the other hand, areas with large German and/or Italian populations suffered from industrial disasters that the government had to explain away to avoid panic.
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