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State of Emergency Begins in France
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Posted on 11/09/2005 6:15:57 AM PST by HHKrepublican_2

PARIS — Rioters defied a state of emergency that took effect Wednesday, as they looted and burned two superstores, set fire to a newspaper office and paralyzed France's second-largest city's subway system with a firebomb.

However, the number of car burnings — a barometer for the unrest — dropped sharply, suggesting the movement lost steam. Overnight Tuesday to Wednesday, youths torched 617 vehicles, down from 1,173 the previous night, national police spokesman Patrick Hamon said. Incidents were reported in 116 towns, down from 226 the night before.

President Jacques Chirac announced extraordinary security measures, which began Wednesday and are valid for a 12-day state of emergency, clearing the way for curfews after nearly two weeks of rioting that began in neglected and impoverished suburban neighborhoods with large Muslim communities.

The French capital and its suburbs, as well as more than 30 other cities, were covered by the state-of-emergency decree, according to a government bulletin published Wednesday. It empowers officials to put troublemakers under house arrest, ban or limit the movement of people and vehicles, confiscate weapons and close public spaces where gangs gather.

Towns included on the list stretched from Nice on the Mediterranean to Strasbourg on the German border and Le Havre on the English Channel, giving an indication of how widespread the unrest has become.

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KEYWORDS: 1848redux; france; insurgency; intifada; jihad; quagmire; surrender; terrorism; uprising; yoots
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To: starfish923
But then they immigrate to France because they simply haven't got what it takes to make it in their own country. Much like the immigrants who come to this country. The USA is much easier to live in. The middle class, wealthy, educated, successful and business people don't emigrate from their homelands....only the "less than".....do.

Yeah, immigrants and their kids don't got what it takes:

Born in Tegucigalpa, Honduras, Miguel A. Estrada immigrated to the United States with his family as a teenager. He is currently a partner in the Washington, D.C. office of Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP, where he is a member of the firm's Appellate and Constitutional Law Practice Group and the Business Crimes and Investigations Practice Group.

Mr. Estrada graduated magna cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa with a bachelor’s degree from Columbia College, New York in 1983. He received a juris doctor degree magna cum laude in 1986 from Harvard Law School, where he was an editor of the Harvard Law Review. After law school, Mr. Estrada served as a law clerk to the Honorable Amalya L. Kearse of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit and then clerked for the Honorable Anthony M. Kennedy of the U.S. Supreme Court.
From 1990 until 1992, Mr. Estrada served as Assistant U.S. Attorney and Deputy Chief of the Appellate Section, U.S. Attorney's Office, Southern District of New York. In 1992, he joined the United States Department of Justice as an Assistant to the Solicitor General. In those capacities, Mr. Estrada represented the government in numerous jury trials and in many appeals before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. Before joining the U.S. Attorney's Office, Mr. Estrada practiced law in New York with Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz.

Alberto R. Gonzales was born in San Antonio, Texas. His parents, Pablo and Maria Gonzales, first met as migrant workers. They settled in Houston after Alberto was born and raised a family that would eventually number eight children. Mr. Gonzales worked in construction, and later was employed in a rice mill, but there were no luxuries for this large family. Mr. Gonzales drank heavily and the house was often filled with the sound of violent quarrels, but Gonzales's mother instilled deep religious values in her children and encouraged them to do well in school.
61 posted on 11/09/2005 6:54:58 AM PST by kenavi ("Remember, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

They better not bomb a cheese or wine factory.


62 posted on 11/09/2005 6:55:35 AM PST by boomop1
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To: HHKrepublican_2
Rioters defied a state of emergency that took effect Wednesday, as they looted and burned two superstores, set fire to a newspaper office and paralyzed France's second-largest city's subway system with a firebomb. However, the number of car burnings — a barometer for the unrest — dropped sharply, suggesting the movement lost steam.

Who writes this crap?

63 posted on 11/09/2005 6:55:38 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: jan in Colorado; Fred Nerks

Ping


64 posted on 11/09/2005 6:56:08 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: starfish923

starfish, ok, we have a different world view, no problem there. yes, islam is different at this time. the leaders live in luxury unknown heretofore. the people otoh seem to survive quite well living in poverty. note that no revolution has occured in islamic nations, no land reform etc etc, why is that? govt vs people is apples and pineapples, always two different universes, even in the usa now.


now about the statue of liberty, that needs to be put in context. it was written by a european jew based on jewish principals that christianity also shares and has embraced. islam is a world apart from that. take this example if you will, womens rights are good, would you agree? but if you said that in an islamic country, you might be in serious trouble. the cream will always find its way to the top, it always has. now as far as taking the dregs of society for immigration, come on, we do. we do it in the millions.


65 posted on 11/09/2005 6:56:12 AM PST by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

IF or WHEN France cracks down, these terrorists will simply remain in their enclaves, and go he...he...he..., continuing to be supported by the French taxpayer.
Remember, the terrorists that struck us used OUR schools, OUR airplanes, OUR credit cards, etc.
The terrorists in France will withdraw, temporarily, to await another opportunity, while using the French taxpayer for their common support.

It can only get worse!


67 posted on 11/09/2005 6:57:11 AM PST by Bob from De
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To: Celtic Conservative
Or this means they are on to other targets, I.E. The cancer has metastized.

I'm thinking that after a couple of weeks, the (automobile) targets have thinned out in their immediate areas...

Hopefully, some were along just for the fun of the mayhem, and the thrill has left them...

It pretty much has to fizzle out or, the targets will change on a large scale...

68 posted on 11/09/2005 6:58:02 AM PST by Iscool (Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
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To: Frank_Discussion; MadIvan

Frank,

I stand corrected. Ivan does have a certain Sir Winston flair.

Ivan,

How is the Beeb convering this?


69 posted on 11/09/2005 6:58:14 AM PST by sargunner
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To: Iscool
It pretty much has to fizzle out or, the targets will change on a large scale...

Agreed. time will tell(even if the MSM won't)

CC

70 posted on 11/09/2005 7:01:35 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (Billy Tauzin about Louisiana: "half the state is under water, the other half is under indictment")
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To: son of caesar
france is really pathetic, like watching a worm squirm and die. put it out of its misery already.

Indeed. Ever watch ants attack an earthworm? That's what happens when the worm allows itself to become vulnerable, and the "ants" are numerous enough.

71 posted on 11/09/2005 7:02:02 AM PST by Cloud William (Liberals are the crabgrass in the lawn of life.)
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To: starfish923
"FOX is turning into cable's PEOPLE magazine with all the twits doing missing women and children shows."


That is a great analogy. I agree totally. Even Hannity on radio and on TV has devoted way to much time to the Aruba story. The sad thing is their are millions of people (even freepers) that like this type of programing. Just read the Aruba discussion threads on Freerepublic. If you dare say anything about the over-coverage of missing beautiful people you will get a thrashing.
72 posted on 11/09/2005 7:02:37 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: kenavi

while your using a couple of people who are or were born of immigrants from a certain area as an example, all is well. however, i would ask you why the entire region south of our border cant seem to progress on any level at all with any reasonable time limit? you can always find a big pearl in a sea of pearls, but compared to other areas pearls, are they really big?

now on to your using legal people as examples. this is my opinion and mine alone, i would not call any of these people honroable off the bat, not until i knew what they actually stood for. imo, the main reason we find ourselves so deluded on islam and other issues of importance is the complete abrogation of the legal system to do its job in the spirit it was intended to be done in.


73 posted on 11/09/2005 7:02:38 AM PST by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: starfish923
But then they immigrate to France because they simply haven't got what it takes to make it in their own country. Much like the immigrants who come to this country. The USA is much easier to live in. The middle class, wealthy, educated, successful and business people don't emigrate from their homelands....only the "less than".....do.


This is one of the most obtuse observations I've read here in a while. If you want to generalize that immigrants here are losers from other countries, then back it up with evidence. No matter though because this country has an overwhelming number of examples that trounce your characterization. As is, you've maligned a good many people who helped make this country.
74 posted on 11/09/2005 7:02:46 AM PST by macamadamia
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To: HHKrepublican_2
...after nearly two weeks of rioting that began in neglected and impoverished suburban neighborhoods with large Muslim communities.

Even Fox repeats the MSM mantra about "neglected and impoverished" neighborhoods and discrimination. Whatever flaws the French have, racial bigotry is not one of them. Remember that many black American entertainers and intellectuals went to France because of the wider acceptance and more hospitable atmosphere towards blacks in that country vs. pre-World War II America. Josephine Baker, an African-American entertainer who moved there in the 1920s, was an extremely popular celebrity in that country. France has also assimilated people from other parts of Europe. I assume that Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy is not entirely of Old French ancestry. Even Maurice Chevalier, the embodiment of France to many Americans 40-50 years ago, was Flemish on his mother's side.

Unlike other immigrants, however, the Arab and African Muslims have self-segregated and have refused to join the mainstream of French culture. Like Marxists, these people are an infection on the body politic that must be effectively expunged from society. We Americans must pay attention here, for what France is experiencing now, we may face a few decades down the road.

75 posted on 11/09/2005 7:02:59 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: sargunner

No idea, I don't watch the BBC.

Regards, Ivan


76 posted on 11/09/2005 7:04:25 AM PST by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

In case you haven't heard .. "this isn't terror" .. that's according to the Danish.


77 posted on 11/09/2005 7:04:52 AM PST by CyberAnt (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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To: Cloud William

Yeah, it's just like that. No individual ant bite is enough to kill a worm...


78 posted on 11/09/2005 7:05:09 AM PST by null and void ("if he mentions "The Noodle Incident", remember, I had nothing to do with it.")
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To: HHKrepublican_2
However, the number of car burnings — a barometer for the unrest — dropped sharply, suggesting the movement lost steam.

Perhaps they just ran out of convenient cars to torch. What a stupid article. "However"...as if the firebombing of a subway station was no big deal. It is disturbing that even FoxNews is covering for the Jihadists.

79 posted on 11/09/2005 7:06:28 AM PST by montag813
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To: starfish923
"The middle class, wealthy, educated, successful and business people don't emigrate from their homelands....only the "less than".....do."

That's not a very precise generalization. My impression is that many immigrants from Asia, in particular, are precisely those who are educated, successful, and business-oriented, because those are the very people that communism displaces. Similarly, many Middle Eastern emigres (including many Christians) to the West are looking for a better life consistent with their abilities and aspirations, a way of life unavailable in their home countries.
80 posted on 11/09/2005 7:06:34 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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