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Japan Scrambles Fighters 30 Times to Repel Chinese
www.foxnews.com ^ | Wednesday, November 09, 2005

Posted on 11/09/2005 5:23:57 AM PST by Esther Ruth

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To: Southack

Actually, China can (and IMHO probably will) invade other countries to do so. There is Siberia, there are still reserves on the Malay penninsula, Indonesia, etc. and especially in the waters of the surrounding areas in the China and South China Seas.


61 posted on 11/09/2005 2:03:10 PM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head
"Actually, China can (and IMHO probably will) invade other countries to do so. There is Siberia, there are still reserves on the Malay penninsula, Indonesia, etc. and especially in the waters of the surrounding areas in the China and South China Seas."

If China wants cheaper resources, it need only prop up the U.S. Dollar less (i.e. hold down the Yuan less).

China has large foreign currency reserves. It can buy what it wants. An ill-thought invasion merely reduces the amount of goods that China could sell to the U.S. and EU...which would cause job losses and wage declines in a China that is already under social pressure...hardly the recipe for a tasty oriental dish.

62 posted on 11/09/2005 2:06:55 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
I never indicated that it would be a rational thing to do.

...but then people with that kind of power and ambitions (and irrespective of what folks want to believe, the PRC is still a totalitarian state) have never been known to make rational decisions.

They are rapidly building their military, they are blustering and threatening their neighbors and ourselves, and they may at some point feel the "need" to galvanize their public behind such action. What they consider historical ties and even "ownership" to places like Taiwan and Siberia could easily fuel it.

63 posted on 11/09/2005 2:30:16 PM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head

Hi Jeff ~ I wondered what type aircraft they were using, also.

How can we find out?


65 posted on 11/09/2005 2:57:09 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Jeff Head

If they act irrationally, then you are correct.

66 posted on 11/09/2005 3:49:36 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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read later


67 posted on 11/09/2005 4:59:39 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Take the high road. You'll never have to meet a Democrat.)
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To: Peach; Mo1

ping


68 posted on 11/09/2005 5:22:35 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Take the high road. You'll never have to meet a Democrat.)
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To: prairiebreeze

It's 50-50 which way China will go, imo. They certainly bear watching. Bill Gertz of The Washington Times, has written excellent articles about China and has included entire sections of a book about how they are a force to be reckoned with.


69 posted on 11/10/2005 5:57:49 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Brilliant; Esther Ruth

<< The Chinese remind me of the Japanese in the late 30's. >>

If they don't pull their heads in, what's in store for them ain't so different, too.


70 posted on 11/10/2005 8:34:01 AM PST by Brian Allen (Patriotic, Immigrant & therefore Hyphenated-AMERICAN-American & Aviator by choice. Christian byGrace)
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To: Lancer_N3502A; ABG(anybody but Gore)

<< The Russians are terrified of China and what would happen if they moved on Siberia. >>

Make that "when."

No "if" about it.

Russia is a dead man walking and will relatively soon lose all of its Asian empire. Whatever mass-murdering gangster-bastard warlord then controls "China" [Of whose present 3.7 million square miles 2.8 million already belongs to someone else and is but murderously colonized] will take whatever area it can invade and hold.


71 posted on 11/10/2005 8:41:58 AM PST by Brian Allen (Patriotic, Immigrant & therefore Hyphenated-AMERICAN-American & Aviator by choice. Christian byGrace)
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To: Jeff Head
Rough numbers by 2010 are:

SU-27 700+ (all makes and models-fighter and fighter bomber)
J-9 200+ (very F-16ish)
J-8 650 (MIG-21 hybrid)

MIG-21 500 (ground attack)
JH-7 200 (ground attack)
72 posted on 11/10/2005 8:49:39 AM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: Lancer_N3502A

Who would have thought 50 years later, seeing Japan flying F15's would make me feel so good.


73 posted on 11/10/2005 8:50:40 AM PST by Zathras
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)

Besides, Pushing into Alaska typically means the Aleutians.


74 posted on 11/10/2005 8:53:26 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Lancer_N3502A
Chinese Army by 2010

2,290 MBT (modern ones too - very Soviet T-90ish)
5,000 APC (with state of the art gun and AT missile systems)
700+ LAV

1,000 T-62
5,000 T-54/55
Both of these are obsolete but good for occupation forces.

I'd say they could outfit about 25 Level I mechanized infantry divisions and another 50 Level II/III for occupation forces.
75 posted on 11/10/2005 8:55:59 AM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: Dead Dog

Nope, straight into Alaska to the pipeline.


76 posted on 11/10/2005 8:57:06 AM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: Lancer_N3502A

Stalin was a moron.


77 posted on 11/10/2005 8:58:28 AM PST by #1CTYankee (I thought about that and DELIBERATELY didn't go there. ((Or maybe I did?))
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To: Lancer_N3502A; Esther Ruth

<< China will have to protect it's flank by establishing a security sphere across the Pacific the same way Japan did in WW2. There's only one stradegy that plays in the Pacific; island warfare. It will probably take Hawaii, Australia and the Eastern Pacific too before it's stopped. >>

Y'know, there are probably a few dickheads in Peking who delusionally fantasize that kind of stuff, too.

The reality is that the Peking-based predatory pack of lying, looting, mass-murdering gangster bastards that so grandiosely calls itself "china," couldn't successfully invade the FRee Republic of Taiwan.

Not even if we would let it! And any attempt by it to do so would see its peasant-pummelling puny PLA arse kicked all the way to Kunming!

A Piper PA-22-135, eh? Here's a pretty one turned from a doggy old nose dragger back into a real airplane!
http://www.ftlcomm.com/ensign/planes/piper/PA22/pa22.html


78 posted on 11/10/2005 8:58:58 AM PST by Brian Allen (Patriotic, Immigrant & therefore Hyphenated-AMERICAN-American & Aviator by choice. Christian byGrace)
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To: Zathras

Nice to see a fellow B5 fan.


79 posted on 11/10/2005 8:59:31 AM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: Brian Allen
I think when China invades Taiwan they'll pretty much level the place with a 1,000 500kg warhead DF-7, DF-11 and DF-15 missiles. Followed by about 700 strike fighters. Wont be a whole lot left to stop em.
80 posted on 11/10/2005 9:10:16 AM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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