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Japan Scrambles Fighters 30 Times to Repel Chinese
www.foxnews.com ^ | Wednesday, November 09, 2005

Posted on 11/09/2005 5:23:57 AM PST by Esther Ruth

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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)

actually, it is a well known fact that russia is inviting chinese people to siberia to exploit it economically. siberia is well stocked with chinese companies and people. if im not mistaken, russia is also allowing china to buy large tracts of land in siberia.


21 posted on 11/09/2005 6:00:42 AM PST by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: Esther Ruth

That, and a long standing hatred between the Chinese and the Japanese.


22 posted on 11/09/2005 6:01:19 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be. -El Neil)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
No amphibs yet, but look what we did in WW2. Take a Panamax freighter and they could turn it into a troopship in 3 months.
23 posted on 11/09/2005 6:05:21 AM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: Esther Ruth
The West (and the world) will soon regret the day that two-thirds of the merchandise at Wal Mart,Best Buy and Radio Shack came to say "Made in China" on it.

Wasn't it Lenin who said that "the capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them"...?

24 posted on 11/09/2005 6:09:52 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: Dead Corpse
and a long standing hatred between the Chinese and the Japanese.

There's been a long standing hatred between the Chinese and just about everyone for the last 56 years...except,maybe,the North Koreans and the North Vietnamese.

25 posted on 11/09/2005 6:12:20 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: Gay State Conservative

btw, an often overlooked thing is the amt of food at your local supermarket that is also coming from china. start checking labels and you will see this happening more and more. i was shocked, i saw the cardboard box said made in china for a yogurt drink, so i asked the stocker person who told me that they are told to remove the shipping boxes right away so no one sees the made in china label. he then told me alot of food nowadays comes from china. now i have to check every label on my purchases as i have no desire to ingest some mammalian ingredient i have no paid for.


26 posted on 11/09/2005 6:16:03 AM PST by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: Esther Ruth
All this talk of China expanding into the Pacific misses two important points:

China has no amphibious military capability and no aircraft carriers to provide air cover for an invasion. They can't even successfully invade Taiwan.

China is suffering from dissent and riots at home. What they can do is cause a lot of trouble.

27 posted on 11/09/2005 6:22:16 AM PST by captain_dave
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To: rbg81

Remember, Monster Island is just off shore. If they turn off the lazer fence, look out.
Gamara, Godzilla, Rhodan....


28 posted on 11/09/2005 6:29:07 AM PST by Holicheese (Would you like a beer? No thanks, I will have a bud light.)
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To: Lancer_N3502A

I'm more concerned with with our country becoming China politically then militarily.


29 posted on 11/09/2005 6:31:06 AM PST by Durus ("Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." JFK)
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To: Brilliant

Chinese do have a score to settle with the Japanese and one day they will.


30 posted on 11/09/2005 6:31:06 AM PST by cynicom
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To: Lancer_N3502A
China does not have the ability to invade foreign nations. They will be unable to land troops in sufficient quantity, they will be unable to resupply those troops. Their ships and subs will disappear in the vast open ocean (American subs guarantee that). Their jets are vulnerable operating close to the mainland, forget about 1000 miles out (American carriers guarantee that). Are they a problem? Yes. Do they have the kind of reach and the overpowering force that 1930's Japan did? No way. Do they wish to achieve that kind of power? Hell yes. We should stop buying their crap and end ALL technology transfers.
31 posted on 11/09/2005 6:32:44 AM PST by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate their country. Islam is a terrorist organization.)
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To: Esther Ruth
Invade for resources, no. China has started a program to neutralize their rear area from Japan to Australia.
32 posted on 11/09/2005 6:33:17 AM PST by cynicom
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To: captain_dave

I just caught your post, you are correct. China cannot do that which is feared. Unrest at home should be encouraged. The easy way is to stop buying their crap and stop supplying technology!


33 posted on 11/09/2005 6:34:47 AM PST by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate their country. Islam is a terrorist organization.)
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To: Lancer_N3502A

Disagree.

The Chinese will head north into Siberia.


34 posted on 11/09/2005 6:35:41 AM PST by IGOTMINE (Front Sight. Press. Follow Through. It's a way of life.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

The North Vietnamese hate them too. Even fought a war in the 70's, as I recall.


35 posted on 11/09/2005 6:36:52 AM PST by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate their country. Islam is a terrorist organization.)
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To: captain_dave
I completely agree. China needs to be watched because they can cause troubles, but they are not a real naval threat and cannot possibly expand into the Pacific. If they expand to the West, they have to fight India. If they expand into Siberia, they'll face Russia (not too scary as a nation any more, but fighting in Siberia is certainly scary).

China is in trouble. An economic stumble would increase their domestic difficulties, and they have no good options for military action to divert the peasants' attention.

36 posted on 11/09/2005 6:37:17 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Esther Ruth
Communism was not defeated in 1989 - 90- 91 with the fall of the Berlin Wall and the Soviet Union, it only has taken on a new face and it only passed the baton onto China, and it's a new chapter in the battle with Communism.
The BIG RED MENACE is still among us.
37 posted on 11/09/2005 6:40:12 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Esther Ruth
I love a good thread.

I'm not suggesting China is gonna move tomorrow, they don't think that way. They're purely long term.

But...sometime down the road, when we got a Jimah Carter or Clinton in the office they might. And they're industrial/ship building capacity is enough to convert what ever they need in short order to make it all happen.
38 posted on 11/09/2005 6:49:36 AM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: conservativewasp
The easy way is to stop buying their crap

I have a hard time deciding what to buy. If you buy Chinese, you're helping support a country that is a potential danger. If you buy American, chances are you're supporting a union which is at least as dangerous to the Republic.

If you don't buy either, there isn't much left to buy.

Note, I have nothing against unionization per se, but the current environment, where unions are essentially fund raising arms of the DNC who happen to occassionally pretend to represent their constuents in negotiations, is as dangerous and the threat more immediate, IMHO, to the United States than any from China.
39 posted on 11/09/2005 7:13:25 AM PST by babyface00
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To: cynicom

If they have a score to settle, then it's only because they are living in the past.

The Chinese are also belligerant toward the US. What is the score they are trying to settle with us? It wasn't that long ago that China attacked India.

To me, it seems that the Chinese economic and technological expertise is growing a lot faster than their maturity.


40 posted on 11/09/2005 7:33:10 AM PST by Brilliant
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