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To: hattend

Stupid, stupid...

I ask again (and no offense to Cali Freepers intended...)-

Why is California such a great place to live? Is it the exorbitant real estate prices? The crime? The earthquakes? The socialist politics?? The Hollyweird crowd?

There is one good thing to come out of California, and that was Ronald Reagan. At one time the state was full of the same kind of Western libertarian-conservative Republicans that still populate most of Arizona, Utah, Montana, and Wyoming (and Nevada outside of Las Vegas) but no longer. Colorado is also going the way of the Blue stater...


1,258 posted on 11/09/2005 6:50:55 AM PST by RockinRight (It’s likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: RockinRight
You well describe "some" of California...but only the coastal 40 miles or so...once you get inland (such as here in Riverside County) you get a Repub/Dem ratio approaching 60/40.

The reddest of the red states can't generally boast that percentage.

1,262 posted on 11/09/2005 6:55:06 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Frist would be a great Majority Leader if he had 65 seats..make that 75)
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To: RockinRight
"Why is California such a great place to live? Is it the exorbitant real estate prices? The crime? The earthquakes? The socialist politics?? The Hollyweird crowd?

I can only answer for myself....I moved here from CT almost 20 years ago.Mostly for the weather, landscape, "lifestyle".I have been to almost every part of the US and nothing compares to the weather and the beauty of the place. The people , present company excluded, are morons...it took me 2 weeks to figure that out. As the place has degenerated I can understand your question...for me personally I will not move, I am a contractor in one of the wealthiest counties in th US, I make more money in a week than my friends back in CT do in a month.....it has taken me years to get to this point and I'm not gonna leave because the people are idiots, as I said I knew that after 2 weeks.... I live a fantastic life that I couldn't back in CT., I knew what I was getting into long ago,I am never surprised by the stupidity and ignorance of the populance here, I fully expect it.
1,299 posted on 11/09/2005 7:29:54 AM PST by scott says (MSM=Morons Spouting Misinformation)
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To: RockinRight

California really was once a good place to live. Yes, there were earthquakes, just as there are hurricanes in Florida, but people can withstand an occasional jolt from nature to live in an otherwise beautiful place.

California was also a state that leaned Republican. Even San Francisco wasn't all that liberal until the 1960's. Exotic, but not leftist as it is now. California elected Ronald Reagan twice as governor. In national politics, it usually took a huge Democrat landslide to put California in the Democrat column. Harry Truman carried the state in '48, but he was the guy who nuked Japan, which made him quite popular in California, where fear of Japanese attacks were high. From 1952 until 1988, the state went Republican in every presidential election except the Democrat landslide in '64.

So what happened? Why is the state now such a leftist dumping ground?

Two things: leftists moved there from elsewhere in the country, and immigrants have poured in from other lands.

Leftists love to live in beautiful surroundings, but only after someone else has tamed the land and made it "safe" for them. You won't find many leftists out on the untamed frontier. By the 1960's, California had been tamed, so to speak, by the morally strong people who built the state's infrastructure, dammed its rivers, bridged its harbors, and so on. Millions of lefties, with a tilt of the wrist, said, "Ooooh, I'd just loooove to live in San Francisco or Santa Monica!"

And so the influx began. But that alone wasn't enough to flip the state firmly into the leftist column. After all, a lot of conservatives also moved to California from elsewhere in America.

What finally flipped California was the 1965 immigration law, which threw open our borders to the Third World. The fact that we pretty much stopped even guarding the borders at about the same time added icing to the cake. This massive flow of Third Worlders into California not only added Democrat voters, but had the effect of running many conservatives out of the state. The combined power of the minority vote and the white leftist vote by the 1990's dominated the state.

California has become a microcosm of what the left plans for the entire country. They envision a society where large racial voting blocs join forces with elite, culturally exotic whites to ravage the middle class (e.g., the conservative voters who pull the wagon and do the heavy lifting). This is why elite whites support "multi-culturalism". They don't want these minorities to become Americans like prior generations of immigrants. They want them to stay a hostile racial pack dependent on government.

There's some risk to the left in this. Hispanics appear to have voted pro-life yesterday on prop 73. But overall the left appears to have taken California over, and like the Soviets they plan to entrench socialism there ever more deeply.

The state's future appears pretty grim, and it affects the future of our entire nation.


1,302 posted on 11/09/2005 7:33:21 AM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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