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Bill Could Ban Smoking In Car With Kids
ClickonDetroit ^ | November 8, 2005 | AP

Posted on 11/08/2005 12:52:05 PM PST by ShadowDancer

Bill Could Ban Smoking In Car With Kids

Studies Show Secondhand Smoke Impairs Respiratory Health

POSTED: 11:14 am EST November 8, 2005

LANSING, Mich. -- Smoky car rides to school may soon be illegal.

Using a lit tobacco product in a vehicle with a person under 18 would be a civil infraction under a bill to be formally introduced Tuesday by Rep. John Moolenaar, spokesman John Whetstone said.

"We've all seen it on our streets and highways, children in the back seat, smokers in the front, and your heart just goes out to those kids," said Moolenaar, R-Midland.

The bill would allow police officers to pull over drivers who are smoking with children in the car, Whetstone said. A fine for the infraction would be set by the courts.

Several studies indicate that secondhand smoke causes lung cancer in adult nonsmokers and impairs the respiratory health of children.

An estimated 150,000 to 300,000 children under 18 months of age get pneumonia or bronchitis every year from breathing secondhand tobacco smoke, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: letthemgetcancer; nannystate; wodlist
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To: festus; Calpernia; Gabz
Actually...burnt meat releases some seriously bad stuff, known to cause cancer. The only cure for this is a compound found only in beer (hopps), called xanomor...oh, shoot. I forget.

Anyway...burnt meat must be followed by beer.

(I am not kidding)

101 posted on 11/08/2005 2:46:03 PM PST by patton ("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
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To: Gabz
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh! They're at it again, I see.

And you're absolutely correct about the sudden rise of children's respiratory problems, since the smokingnazies began their campaign against the LEGAL use of tobacco products.

I'm older than you are. When I was growing up, the vast majority of adults smoked a pipe, cigars, or cigarettes. From babyhood through college, I knew but one, ONE child who had asthma.

102 posted on 11/08/2005 2:46:58 PM PST by nopardons
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To: patton

So that is why it is mandatory to drink beer at a BBQ!! :)


103 posted on 11/08/2005 2:47:25 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Crazieman
I'd be far more concerned, if I were you, with parents feeding their kids horrible fast food, than their smoking in a car!

And as a smoker, I can't imagine not cracking a window, when smoking in a car. Your description of that incident is ludicrous, at best and most probably duplicitous.

104 posted on 11/08/2005 2:50:12 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Taliesan

Why are you so much smarter than the last generation? Do you agree that sodomy is healthy too? That's another modern invention. Stop thinking just because ideas are "modern" they are smarter than your grandparents' ideas.

People are too into saying what others should do today, and way too easy on themselves.


105 posted on 11/08/2005 2:51:34 PM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (The Fault, dear Brutus, is not in the Stars, but in ourselves..)
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To: patton

Taliesan doesn't know how to question authority. He is a good little fascist. Hmmm... why do I have the feeling he goes around tossing the "fascist" word at people almost as often as he does the "addict" word?


106 posted on 11/08/2005 2:53:26 PM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (The Fault, dear Brutus, is not in the Stars, but in ourselves..)
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To: Calpernia
Ask your hubby. Xanthohumol.
107 posted on 11/08/2005 2:54:11 PM PST by patton ("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
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To: Taliesan

A frickin' philosopher.


108 posted on 11/08/2005 2:54:40 PM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (The Fault, dear Brutus, is not in the Stars, but in ourselves..)
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To: ShadowDancer
An estimated 150,000 to 300,000 children under 18 months of age get pneumonia or bronchitis every year from breathing secondhand tobacco smoke, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

Bogus science.

109 posted on 11/08/2005 2:56:08 PM PST by kabar
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To: nopardons

BTTT


110 posted on 11/08/2005 2:56:24 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: wolfcreek

They're just too stupid to roll the window down. Opps, if they did that, air pollution might kill them. What's a dumbass, inbred, trailor trash parent to do?

This subject just infuriates me. I couldn't see my grandchildren because I smoked, yet my daughterinlaw could drive from Illinois to Kentucky with the windows open. When I moved to Indiana and the holidays came along, she asked me not to smoke IN MY OWN HOUSE when they were here. When I told them I didn't mind going into another room to smoke, they said no, it would still affect their daughter. I told my son to stay at his wifes grandparents house as this one is mine and no one is gonna tell me what to do in MY OWN HOUSE. My son came to visit.. alone.


111 posted on 11/08/2005 2:57:26 PM PST by Lovergirl (Chicago native living in Southern Indiana.)
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To: Calpernia

read later

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1518222/posts?page=107#107


112 posted on 11/08/2005 2:57:31 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: pageonetoo

That is so cool about your son - I LOVE Big Band music!!!

My friend with asthma still smokes, and in fact will light one when she feels an attack coming on. In the 20 years I've known her, I've never seen her have an attack and she can only remember having one full blown attack in more than 30 years.

This is not an endorsement of smoking, just an account of one person with asthma who happens to smoke.


113 posted on 11/08/2005 2:58:21 PM PST by Gabz
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To: Great Caesars Ghost
If you want to spend the time, you can find the original nazi antismoking posters on www.forces.org.

Hitler, the vegetarian, hated smoking.

Seems that attitude stuck with some folks.

114 posted on 11/08/2005 2:58:21 PM PST by patton ("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
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To: ShadowDancer

Just tell how this will be enforced? Should we put cameras in every car and monitor the driver and passengers????????


115 posted on 11/08/2005 2:59:28 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: patton

LOL!


116 posted on 11/08/2005 3:01:35 PM PST by Lovergirl (Chicago native living in Southern Indiana.)
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To: ShadowDancer

This will do nothing. All people will do is what so many already do when they see a cop while driving. They will put down the cigarette,cell phone, make up, beer, book, electric shaver or newspaper and buckle their seatbelt. Pick whichever applies to you. I am sick to death of nanny laws and this latest attempt at one won't even apply to me.


117 posted on 11/08/2005 3:07:58 PM PST by WV Mountain Mama (You can't spell liberal without the letters L- I- E.)
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To: Taliesan
Sorry, but it is you who have the problem, which needs immediate help.

There are good parents who smoke, just as there are TERRIBLE parents who do not smoke. The reverse, of course, is also true. Smoking has little to no relevance to whether a parent is a good one, or not.

118 posted on 11/08/2005 3:08:36 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Gabz

Who is this Bill?


119 posted on 11/08/2005 3:09:00 PM PST by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: Fawn

sounds like you can sue your parents then...go head...


120 posted on 11/08/2005 3:09:20 PM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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