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Bush 29, Chavez 5
Investor's Business Daily ^ | Nov. 7, 2005 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 11/08/2005 7:44:28 AM PST by Kitten Festival

Latin America: If you heeded the hype from gloomy hand wringers or news photos of shop-trashing anti-American thugs, you'd think President Bush left the Argentina summit in failure. It's nothing but rubbish.

Seldom has news been so distorted against facts. Most of the U.S. media claim that because the 34 states were obstructed from full agreement on a declaration to kick-start free trade by a few holdouts, it's some sort of victory for the chief obstructor, U.S. antagonist Hugo Chavez of Venezuela.

Just by the numbers, it's a false impression. Only five states at the Organization of American States summit in Mar del Plata withheld signing a statement to restart talks for a Free Trade of the Americas pact, and four of those — Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay — did so temporarily on valid concerns about farm subsidies.

The U.S. sympathizes with them, but is hamstrung by its larger trade relations with heavily subsidized Europe. That's why the U.S. is going to bat for those four at the World Trade Organization's 148-nation Doha Round of trade talks in Hong Kong this December.

That leaves just Venezuela obstructing free trade, and on ideological grounds. The real story is that 29 very different states — making up 90% of the hemisphere's GDP — endorsed free trade.

Even more encouraging, the summit's most articulate advocates for free trade spontaneously came from Latin American leaders whose nations have already experienced free trade.

(Excerpt) Read more at investors.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: argentina; bush; chavez; dictator; freetrade; ibd; maradona; riots; shopsmashing; summitoftheamericas; thugs; trade; us; venezuela; victory; win
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1 posted on 11/08/2005 7:44:30 AM PST by Kitten Festival
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bttt


2 posted on 11/08/2005 7:46:07 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Kitten Festival

For once, I'm in agreement with the Argentines.

I don't like farm subsidies either. Ours or theirs.


3 posted on 11/08/2005 7:47:43 AM PST by Choose Ye This Day ('Tis the part of the wise man to...not venture all his eggs in one basket. -- Cervantes)
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To: Kitten Festival

MSM fails as news again. They don't even do the job they're called to do!


4 posted on 11/08/2005 7:48:05 AM PST by RoadTest ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity." - Yeats)
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To: Kitten Festival

That's okay. We'll just leave Venezuela out of the agreement.


5 posted on 11/08/2005 7:50:05 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Kitten Festival

"Down goes Chavez!!!"


6 posted on 11/08/2005 7:50:06 AM PST by YouPosting2Me
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To: Kitten Festival

Great post!


7 posted on 11/08/2005 7:51:31 AM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: Kitten Festival
"Why are pedophiles happy? Because thanks to the MSM, they are not the lowest of the low in society..."

I'm really, really starting to hate the MSM as never before.

8 posted on 11/08/2005 7:53:25 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Kitten Festival

Looks like the final score might be Bush 33- Chavez 1. That works for me.


9 posted on 11/08/2005 7:54:27 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Kitten Festival

Did you guys see Chavez bouncing around like he was at a night club?


10 posted on 11/08/2005 7:56:28 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (11, 175, 77, 93 - In Memory Always)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
I don't like farm subsidies either. Ours or theirs.

I agree. Most of our farm subsidies are just corporate welfare. They have little to do with family farmers any more. It would be far cheaper just to give the farm families about $100k each and forget about subsidizing the crops.

When our farm subsidies destroy the agriculture industries in the third world, the next thing that happens is that all their agricultural workers end up here as illegal immigrants.

11 posted on 11/08/2005 7:57:34 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

But, but, but the NYT editorial said that Bush's trip was an absolute failure and that they feared another 3 years of such a visionless and incompetent President.


12 posted on 11/08/2005 7:58:02 AM PST by marlon
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To: Kitten Festival

The media is now simply running a 24/7 soap opera with Dubya cast as the arch villain.


13 posted on 11/08/2005 8:02:09 AM PST by Monti Cello
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I was watching the cable networks the afternoon they were tripping all over themselves to report on the staged "riots". Most reporters were breathless. The coverage had the usual "Oh the humanity" emotional handwringing tone. It was qutie humorous when the protesters all packed up to go home and it was revealed that the protest had been staged and planned for days as shopkeepers had closed down and boarded up in anticipation of the event from the USUAL SUSPECTS.


14 posted on 11/08/2005 8:03:26 AM PST by rhombus
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The media is now simply running a 24/7 soap opera with Dubya cast as the arch villain.

That would make an excellent tagline.

15 posted on 11/08/2005 8:05:40 AM PST by Sisku Hanne (The Old Media, Democrat party & the Left are grim MILLSTONES for our troops)
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To: AmericaUnited

How can you think that way about our beloved Treason Media. It is doing its job very effectively; undermining righteouness and America at every opportunity.


16 posted on 11/08/2005 8:06:10 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Kitten Festival

I heard a commentary on WLS radio this morning talking about how you wouldn't know it from the MSM but that this trip had been a great success for Bush. It specifically cited this editorial as the one that got it right. What it comes down to is that if you discount the subsidy issue, only Chavez is opposed to the idea of free trade.


17 posted on 11/08/2005 8:08:50 AM PST by mak5 (Lying to a grand jury is reprehensible. Demand Senator Clinton's resignation.)
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To: rhombus

3- minute loop on Fox repeated 7 times.
I thought my Tardis was broken.


18 posted on 11/08/2005 8:10:57 AM PST by steve8714
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To: Kitten Festival

Umm... Brazil is MOST of South America. I think Argentina is the second largest country.


19 posted on 11/08/2005 8:12:08 AM PST by dangus
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Only five states at the Organization of American States summit in Mar del Plata withheld signing a statement to restart talks for a Free Trade of the Americas pact, and four of those — Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay — did so temporarily on valid concerns about farm subsidies.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but I'm with the 5 that are opposed to this odious agreement.

FTAA, as I have been learning, is the forerunner of a western hemisphere EU - an incredibly bad idea, given the failure that the EU has achieved. For the US to pursue this disaster is shocking.

Maps that detail the TTC as part of the FTAA, relegate the US to the category of "flyover" country. While it explains volumes about why the Bush Administration so adamantly refuses to enforce the borders and strengthen immigration, it does so at a huge cost to the US as a sovereign nation and to the citizens of the US.

The FTAA would make us all part of one big entity consisting of the US, Canada, Mexico and South America. Nothing against the fine folk from those other nations, but I don't want to be part of another failed experiment in socialism and one world government and that's all the FTAA is, IMO. We have seen what is happening to the EU, let's take the hint and bail out while we can.
20 posted on 11/08/2005 8:19:45 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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