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To: Thatcherite

Okay...I'm going to ask this ONE MORE TIME, and then I give up. What EXACTLY is the reason that ID should not be mentioned in schools? I'm still waiting for you guys to stop calling me an a--hole and start the debate.


481 posted on 11/13/2005 10:11:19 PM PST by ModernDayCato
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To: ModernDayCato
What EXACTLY is the reason that ID should not be mentioned in schools?

The objection is not over mentioning ID in schools. Many here on the evolution side have stated that ID is an acceptable topic in a philosophy course. The objection is over covering ID in a science course as if it were science, when in fact it is not.
482 posted on 11/14/2005 1:46:12 AM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: ModernDayCato
What EXACTLY is the reason that ID should not be mentioned in schools?

It has been rejected by the overwhelming majority of experts in the field. While that doesn't by itself make it wrong, it's the only criterion by which school boards, administrators and teachers can judge what to teach and what not to teach.

Can you find individual experts who dissent? Perhaps. But the same is true of astrology, alchemy, homeopathy, geomancy...all manner of obsolete, medieval superstition, in fact...but we don't teach them on an equal footing with science.

Mention ID in schools, yes, but numbered among the list of rejected, old ideas.

483 posted on 11/14/2005 3:38:08 AM PST by Physicist
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To: ModernDayCato
What EXACTLY is the reason that ID should not be mentioned in schools?

Oh, it goes in the schools. I've always said it belongs in Abnormal Psychology. It just doesn't belong in biology classes.

497 posted on 11/14/2005 6:07:47 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: ModernDayCato
BTW, my fairy godmother says she knows your nameless uncle, since they both live in Invisible Friend Land and he's a dope.
501 posted on 11/14/2005 7:33:22 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: ModernDayCato
Okay...I'm going to ask this ONE MORE TIME, and then I give up. What EXACTLY is the reason that ID should not be mentioned in schools? I'm still waiting for you guys to stop calling me an a--hole and start the debate.

It shouldn't be mentioned in science class because it doesn't make the grade to be a scientific theory. Even its leading exponent, Dr Michael Behe, under oath in the Dover trial agreed that if the scientific definition of theory were widened (as he wishes) to encompass ID then astrology would also have to be classified as science. Dr Behe's definition of "theory" is more or less the rest of science's definition of "hypothesis". What's your uncle's opinion about astrology, then?

OTOH you accuse me of a viewpoint that I have never espoused. I'd be happy to have ID mentioned in a philosophy class, or a religious education class, where it belongs. Perhaps if religious education were permitted in US public schools this debate would go away.

506 posted on 11/14/2005 9:33:53 AM PST by Thatcherite (F--ked in the afterlife, feminized androgenous automaton euro-weenie blackguard)
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