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To: newzjunkey

I read the details of Prop 77, and I'll be honest - it sounds terrible. Can you provide a link so I can read what McClintock's views on it are and why he recommends a YES vote?

My husband says it sounds like a drinking game! LOL


17 posted on 11/08/2005 7:10:51 AM PST by cgk (Card-Carrying, Dues-Paying Member of the VCBC {Vast Conservative Base Conspiracy})
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Fine print synopsis of Prop 77 (the drinking game):

Major Steps to Select Redistricting Panel Under Prop 77

1. Judicial Council (an administrative body of the court system) collects list of retired judges willing to serve on a panel. The judges must not have:

2. Judicial Council randomly selects a pool of 24 judges from the list of volunteers. The two larges political parties must have equal representation.

3. The four legislative leaders (two each from the majority and minority parties) nominate a total of 12 judges from the pool. The leaders each nominate 3 judges with party affiliations different than their own. Each leader is then able to eliminate one of the nominated judges.

4. From the nominates judges remaining on the list, three judges are selected at random to serve as the panel. Each of the two largest political parties must have at least one representative.

5. The selected judges pledge, in writing, to not run for offices affected by the districts they draw or accept public jobs (other than judicial or teaching) for the next 5 years.


More fine print:

This measure amends the California Constitution (without a vote by the people) to change the redistricting process. If voters reject redistricting plane, process repeats, but officials elected under rejected plan serve full terms.

19 posted on 11/08/2005 7:21:11 AM PST by cgk (Card-Carrying, Dues-Paying Member of the VCBC {Vast Conservative Base Conspiracy})
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To: cgk
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1470118/posts

Proposition 73: Parental Notification for Abortion. If parental consent is required for a child to use a tanning booth or get her ears pierced, shouldn’t parents at least be notified if she’s getting an abortion? YES. Whether you’re pro-life or pro-choice, this should be the all-time no-brainer.

Proposition 74: Teacher Tenure. Do parents have a right to expect a higher level of competence before a teacher is granted life-time tenure? YES. This modest measure simply increases the teacher probation period from two years to five years.

Proposition 75: Public Employee Union Dues. Should public employees decide for themselves which candidates they will support with their own money? YES. This measure requires that before a public employee union can take money from that employee for political donations, it has to get the employee’s permission.

Proposition 76: State Spending. Should government live within its means? YES. This measure restores the authority that the governor of California had between 1939 and 1983 to make mid-year spending cuts whenever spending outpaces revenue without having to return to the legislature.

Proposition 77: Re-districting. Should voters choose their representatives in legislative districts that are drawn without regard to partisan advantage? YES. The most obvious conflict of interest in government is when politicians choose which voters will get to vote for them by drawing their own legislative district lines. This measure puts a stop to it.

Propositions 78 and 79: Prescription drug discounts. Do you want the same people who run the DMV to run your pharmacy? NO. These are rival measures, one supported by drug companies and the other by liberal activists – both of which purport to lower drug prices. What they really do is assure that one group of patients gets to pay higher prices to provide subsidized prices for others. There’s no such thing as a free Levitra.

Proposition 80. Electricity Regulation. Do you want the same people who run the DMV to run your electricity company? NO. This measure locks in monopoly control of your electricity by the bureaucratized utilities and forbids you from ever being able to shop around for the lowest-priced electricity available.

42 posted on 11/08/2005 8:01:40 AM PST by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: cgk

its actually not decided on by just retired judges...the create a new redistricting and the people of california vote on whether they like the way it is redistricted...i like it...it seems fair...the republican party i think is even paying to run yes vote commericals out here...tom mcclintock knows what he is talking about...remember...he was running as the more conservative person against the governator


86 posted on 11/08/2005 11:04:29 AM PST by chrispycsuf (our troops need our support now more than ever)
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To: cgk
Good afternoon.

The fact that incumbents from both parties in California are recoiling from Prop 77 like a Jewish vampire from a Star of David tells me that I probably should vote Yes on it.

The DemocRATs hate it because it MIGHT give Republicans a shot at winning and incumbent Republicans hate it because it MIGHT make their safe districts less so.

Michael Frazier
137 posted on 11/08/2005 2:33:24 PM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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