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FRENCH UNABLE TO PUT DOWN INSURRECTION (Incapable?)
Sierra Times ^ | 11/7/2005 | Jim Kouri, CPP

Posted on 11/07/2005 5:31:57 AM PST by FerdieMurphy

While American soldiers successfully combat terrorists and insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan, a widespread insurgency continues in France's emanating from Islamic migrant areas.

The violence and destruction spread across the country yesterday with more than 900 cars torched in one night. Observers, experts in security and police operations, wonder if the French are capable of putting down this insurrection.

French police initiated a helicopter response and claim they arrested close to 200 Muslim rioters. Police commanders and their superiors say they intend to step up action against rioters responsible for 10 nights of violence.

The destruction has spread to the outskirts of other cities around the country – including Toulouse, Rennes, Nantes and Lille – were hit by a wave of arson attacks.

Cases of arson were also observed in parts of central Paris. For instance, a Molotov cocktail consumed four vehicles near a major square, Place de la Republique, while six vehicles went up in smoke in another district..

Despite calls for calm, 918 cars were torched yesterday and 897 the previous day. One American national security expert cynically told this writer that he wouldn't be surprised if the Chirac government surrendered to these homegrown insurgents.

"They [the French] just may hold to their reputation for appeasement and surrender," he said.

Seven police surveillance helicopters armed with high-tech cameras hovered above Paris and other locations in the hopes of pursuing and identifying the the mostly young North African and Arab arsonists, who have taken to setting fires then fleeing the scene, frequently on motor bikes.

Special squads of police trained in special operations smashed through doors in a public housing project in the Paris suburb of Les Mureaux where they arrested youths who had tossed heavy objects, such as supermarket trolleys, on police and on a heavily traveled road.

Over 2,200 more police officers in riot gear and weaponry were deployed to patrol the streets while over 100 additional firefighters were sent to the Paris region under attack.

Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, who's been the target of a great deal of criticism for calling the rioters "scum" and wishing to take a hardline on the rioters, visited a police command headquarters in southern Paris overnight. During an impromptu press conference he said that the gangs responsible for the violence have become increasingly organized. They have been seen using mobile telephones to relay police movements and internet blogs to urge unrest elsewhere.

Overall, over 550 insurgents have been arrested since the riots began, some of them minors found carrying gasoline bombs.

The violence erupted on October 27 when two teenagers, one an African immigrant and the other an Arab, were electrocuted while hiding in an electrical sub-station after fleeing a routine police identity check. The checks are part of France's homeland security strategy. Some left-wing politicians and groups have accused the French police of "Gestapo" tactics when dealing with Muslims, and they've leveled the old standby accusation so familiar to Americans -- racial profiling.

So far no one has been killed during the civil unrest, according to the French government, but at two civilians have been badly burned by Molotov cocktails. They were a firefighter and a handicapped woman who was deserted on board and unable to get off an ambushed bus. An elderly man is reported to be in a coma after being struck by an attacker in a housing project.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: france; insurgency; leftistidiocy; leftistidiots; leftistweenies; muslims; riots; surrendermonkeys; trop
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To: FerdieMurphy

Not incapable, unwilling. Socialism breeds contempt and lethargy.


61 posted on 11/07/2005 6:11:46 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: Brilliant

What's the big deal? These are indigent insurgents. They're expressing themselves in the only way that will get the attention of the colonial power which puts them down. It's "The Arab Street". Blah, blah, blah....


62 posted on 11/07/2005 6:11:55 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: FerdieMurphy

Are there any hard line nationalists in France?


63 posted on 11/07/2005 6:13:40 AM PST by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

"Overall, over 550 insurgents have been arrested since the riots began, some of them minors found carrying gasoline bombs...So far no one has been killed during the civil unrest, according to the French government, but at two civilians have been badly burned by Molotov cocktails."

The answer is amazingly clear: Raise the tax rate on petrol to astronomical new heights and take the ability to pay for it away from the chronically unemployed. In this way, the source of the danger will be removed and the government will have plenty of fresh money from the taxes taken from the disproportionately wealthy population's continued gasoline purchases. In this way, they will be able to rebuild Paris, cut greenhouse gas emissions, bail out their failing medical system, increase subsidies to farmers and create new government jobs to help integrate illiterate North African Muslims into French society.


64 posted on 11/07/2005 6:13:41 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (The problem with being a 'big tent' Party is that the clowns are seated with the paying customers.)
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To: astounded

"The Second Amendment of the US Constitution tells why we will never see anything like this from muslims in the USA."

Think again, the moment you raise a gun to a muslim, regardless of what the muslim is doing, you will promptly be arrested for a hate crime and the muslim will become an instant hero.


65 posted on 11/07/2005 6:13:45 AM PST by RouxStir (Islam is a slower moving, more deadly "Nazism".....but the results are the same.)
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To: Condor51

uh, sorry to be a bit contrarian, but in the la riots, it took three days and some fifty dead before our govt did its ARMED REPSONSE THING. do i really need to remind everyone about new orleans? didnt think so.


66 posted on 11/07/2005 6:15:20 AM PST by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: lentulusgracchus
calling the rioters 'scum'

Truth is, he didn't call them scum.

67 posted on 11/07/2005 6:16:17 AM PST by razorback-bert
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To: lentulusgracchus

If all we have to go on about Le Pen's ideology is the lying Treason Media then we really know less than nothing.
As far as I know he has been telling the truth about the dangers posed by the followers of Mad Mo.


68 posted on 11/07/2005 6:20:56 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: 2banana

Charles Martel is spinning in his grave.


69 posted on 11/07/2005 6:21:36 AM PST by steve8714
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To: FerdieMurphy
I disagree! The French government has subjected the rioters to a vicious sneering! Various French officials have steadfastly disparaged, witheringly insulted, and somewhat halfheartedly deplored (from a safe distance), the youths involved.

With that distasteful duty out of the way, France can now begin a glorious collaboration!

70 posted on 11/07/2005 6:22:15 AM PST by Gumlegs
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To: Conservomax
***Are there any hard line nationalists in France?***

Yes, the Interior Minister, Nicolas Sarkozy.

IIRC around day two of the riots, he called them "Scum". The rest of the French Cabinet wet their pantaloons, and demanded he apologize and/or resign - he has not.

71 posted on 11/07/2005 6:23:13 AM PST by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: lentulusgracchus

The rioters may have a particular dislike for Sarko since his grandad on mom's side was a Jew (Sarko was raised Catholic, though).


72 posted on 11/07/2005 6:25:10 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: FerdieMurphy
Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, who's been the target of a great deal of criticism for calling the rioters "scum" and wishing to take a hardline on the rioters

How dare he call vandals scum!
73 posted on 11/07/2005 6:27:47 AM PST by DarkSavant (I touch myself at thoughts of flames)
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To: FerdieMurphy

What’s the main reason these murderous punks are giving for rioting? The Lack of human rights in France.
It was France who connived with human-rights champions China and Cuba to toss the United States off the UN Human Rights Commission, with Sudan (of all places) taking America's place. America they said had lost favor among all these third World countries, who now look at the United States as being cowboys with a blood-lust passion for war.

But who cities are burning today? Fires caused by former citizens of the Gimmie Gimmie third world countries.

Listen up France. You can earn respect, or you can earn RESPECT. You chose the wrong path.


74 posted on 11/07/2005 6:30:54 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Fee

The nice thing about the US is we don't "offer to form citizen militias" to stop crap like this--we just form them. The Rodney King riots in LA stopped when the rioters ran up against just such a barrier of armed citizens. Thank God the horrible AWB expired.


75 posted on 11/07/2005 6:34:13 AM PST by libstripper
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To: FairfaxVA
I have a solution...let's send Cindy Sh*tcan over there. She's been supporting these animals for quite some time."

You better remind Cindy to be sure to pack her Burka for the trip.

76 posted on 11/07/2005 6:35:49 AM PST by albee ("Those that bite the hand that feeds them will lick the boot that kicks them!" - Eric Hoffer)
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To: RouxStir
the moment you raise a gun to a muslim

The moment I have to raise a weapon on a moo, there will be one dead moo. The taking of a human life is the most difficult decision one can make, but I have had to make it before and I can make it again. It is always better to try and cope with the taking of a life, than to be dead.

Shoot, shuffle off, and shut up.

77 posted on 11/07/2005 6:36:15 AM PST by 11Bush
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To: Pharmboy
Oh, that'll do it -- he's part Jew? Hell won't hold it all!
78 posted on 11/07/2005 6:38:45 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: libstripper
The Rodney King riots in LA stopped when the rioters ran up against just such a barrier of armed citizens.

I don't recall this being the case at all (though there were specific instances of business owners hunkering down with their families and their guns to protect their property). I believe the LA riots stopped when the U.S. postal service announced that it wasn't going to deliver mail -- including all kinds of government checks -- to South Central L.A.

79 posted on 11/07/2005 6:39:16 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Reid and his clowns can pout their cherry lips and put on a big show . . . ain't nobody watchin')
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To: clee1

Moret than anything else, this French Islamofascist insurrection shows why all of us who can should go out and buy all the guns and ammunition we can afford. Otherwise, it will assuredly come here. I don't just want a gun saturated society; I want one that's drowning in legally and legitimately owned guns and ammunition.


80 posted on 11/07/2005 6:39:24 AM PST by libstripper
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