Posted on 11/07/2005 2:44:49 AM PST by Dane
French police made 395 arrests last night as riots intensified for the 11th consecutive night, with violence and fire engulfing towns from the North to the Mediterranean.
In the impoverished suburbs and satellite towns around Paris, where the unrest began on October 27, churches, schools and warehouses were set alight. At least 1,408 vehicles were destroyed, many more than on previous nights, and the random attacks have spread into the heart of the city.
In Grigny, south of the capital, a gang of around 200 youths are reported to have lured police into a housing estate before opening fire with hunting rifles. At least 30 officers were injured, two seriously with lead pellets in the legs and neck.
Riots broke out in beacons of disaffection across the country from Lille, on the border with Belgium, to Montpellier on the Mediterranean coast. In Toulouse, police used tear gas to disperse a mob. Cars were set alight on the streets of Nantes, Orleans, Rennes and Rouen, and youths in St Etienne forced passengers off a bus before burning it. Churches were set ablaze in northern Lens and southern Sete.
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In Strasbourg, youths stole a car and rammed it into a housing project, setting the vehicle and the building on fire. "We’ll stop when Sarkozy steps down," the defiant 17-year-old driver told an Associated Press reporter.
Police are calling for a night-time curfew in affected areas and some senior officers have demanded that troops are brought on to the streets.
Michel Gaudin, France's most senior police officer, said today: "We are witnessing a sort of shock wave that is spreading across the country."
(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...
If France's government created this mess, and it's blowing up in their laps, then .....I'm not sure I understand your position.
In the scene where the fires were raging on the dark street, there were cries of Allah Akbar, it is true.
But did you not also listen to every interview with every person there? Young, old alike. They didn't speak about Islam. They spoke about treatment. And Sarkozy, darling of the right, when asked about radical Islamists, he said that they would have a problem with the police and the justice system, but that what this was about was rebuilding communities.
Once again, perhaps you are hearing what you want to hear, and I am hearing what I want to hear. But I do acknowledge that yes, Allah Akbar was yelled in one scene of riot. I have not heard acknowledged, in turn, that all of those Beurs interviewed, young, old, alike, didn't speak about religious belief or desires, but about anger at concrete injustices, and that the hardest hardliner in the French government echoed the sentiment that what's needed is rebuilding.
"Be a dear and find out for us if Madonna & Johnny Depp have vacated France yet,would you please?"
I thought Madonna was in England.
If Johnny Depp is in Paris, he is assuredly in the 16th where there will be no cars torched.
They all went to French school and speak French as their mother tongue. Some speak Arabic.
I think the point we're trying to make is that their own intolerance and refusals to assimilate contributed to their current situations, which they're now trying to blame on others, (which, in the case of the French government isn't hard to do). Of all the countries in Europe, it's hardly surprising that French culture didn't welcome them with open arms.
In France, employment is not employment at will. Once you hire somebody, after a probabtionary period that person essentially acquires "tenure" in that job and cannot be removed, except for cause. Economic needs of a company are NOT grounds for removal: a company desiring to lay-off workers due to economic recession must have its lay-offs approved by the Labor Tribunals, of whose judges a certain number (a third to two thirds) are appointed representatives of the Unions.
To hire a worker in France is, essentially, to marry him.
Further rigidities are built into the system besides the 35 hour work week, the 6 weeks paid vacation, and the various social insurance programs. Also, in the event of a layoff, the business must pay the employee for two years or so after termination. Also, employers are required to give a "13 month bonus", which is to say, to pay employees an extra month of pay as a bonus every year. This bonus is not paid as a lump sum at the end of the year, but is instead divided into paychecks and paid all year.
That is just a starting indication.
There is no doubt that the Beurs have done much to make themeslves and everyone else miserable.
Like the urban riots in America in the 1960s, which the Kerner Commission blamed on
“white racism,” Paris’s riots are being blamed on France’s failure to bring Islamic
immigrants into the social and economic mainstream of the nation. Solutions being offered
range from voting rights for non-citizens to affirmative action in hiring for the
children of Third World immigrants.
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The article reads as if it's designed to elicit sympathy for the perpetrators.
Wow, the AP guy ran into the leader of all the rioters. What are the odds of that happening? /sarcasm>
"Once again, perhaps you are hearing what you want to hear, and I am hearing what I want to hear. But I do acknowledge that yes, Allah Akbar was yelled in one scene of riot. I have not heard acknowledged, in turn, that all of those Beurs interviewed, young, old, alike, didn't speak about religious belief or desires, but about anger at concrete injustices, and that the hardest hardliner in the French government echoed the sentiment that what's needed is rebuilding."
You seem as if you are just waking up from a long winter's nap. You need to go read the numerous fatwas from OBL and the Jihadist websites from 1998 to now. You also need to understand the 'need' for the leftist media to cut n paste whatever 'message' they are trying to send or cover up when they interview the 'poor youth'. Give me a break!!
Go ahead and try to 'understand' them. I have read enough to know what the hell is going on! This death cult will use whatever EXCUSE they need to accomplish their goals!! If you need some links to their 'fatwas' over the years to WAKE YOUR ASS UP..let me know. I will gladly provide them tomorrow. Until then..u might find more comfort for your passive submittance over at DU!! Good night.
I can't stop laughing! FREE ENTERPRISE DOESN'T EXIST IN FRANCE! No one in their right mind would open a business there, surely?
Goodbye France. Will the last one to leave, turn off the light...whoops, they won't need to, you can read by the flames.
Btw, thanks for the info.
Oh. No, the very next line says 'and here is why those solutions won't work.' And attempts to make the case that America's black population in the civil unrest days weren't as outside the mainstream as France's muslim youths are today. But, like I said before, whose fault is that.
Hey, sorry, I've been here almost all day, my eyes are crossed, things are coming over upside down, time to shut the comp down!
Whose fault is that? The darned clerics at the mosque! I'll give you a link to something that will give you an idea of what they are told. It makes my blood boil!
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12226
http://www.frontpagemag.com/GoPostal/commentdetail.asp?ID=12226&commentID=260388
You do realize that I didn't write that; some DUmmie did. Right?
You, Sir...I suspect I am flattering you by saying "Sir"...are asleep at the helm. You are not in France yet you want to protect her rot (you stand by her carcass and growl like a wolverine).
I am actually pro-Gaul...so I wonder about your intentions (you are a hot air balloon hovering over this scene...hungry for attention...afraid that it might die and leave you with no visible means of support).
You indicate no knowledge of Islam, yet you are not short of words. You blather as though you are educated yet what you say contains no learning...it contains no understanding.
If you are a representative of France (whose courage you do poorly commend), you need to stand aside and let better men take your place.
There are, no doubt, worthy men in France...but you are not one of them.
None so blind as those who will not see?
Really, it is a waste of time. We have so much to do in our own backyard, France did this to itself, let it sort itself out. That superior tone, as if we were not as refined or 'civilized' as the french reminds me too much of that number one phony and his ketchup heiress wife.
We know what they are doing, they are lying to us because they simply can't admit they might have been wrong. Rummy was right. OLD Europe. The nations emerging from the USSR yoke are our friends, not arab loving Chirac and his ilk.
http://www.meforum.org/article/772 THE CHIRAC DOCTRINE
Hello.....you're up late, something get your goat?
"Is Allah a good Guy or not?"......."By their fruit you shall know them".
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