Posted on 11/06/2005 9:23:51 AM PST by FerdieMurphy
A FEW days ago Georges Bigot, a French firefighter, was standing with colleagues on a street in a suburb of Paris waiting for reinforcements to help put out a fire started by rioters. Suddenly a television fell out of the sky in front of him.
It had been heaved over a balcony eight floors up and shattered on the ground. “Have you ever seen a television exploding on the pavement?” asked Bigot wearily as he stood under a light drizzle. “Well, it gave me quite a shock.”
As he spoke, thick clouds of smoke billowed from a textile warehouse set ablaze the previous night by another gang of youths, mainly of north African and black African origin, in this shabby suburb north of the capital. Firefighters who had tried to put it out during the night were pelted with stones.
“We’re used to stones,” grinned Bigot as blaring sirens echoed off the walls of giant concrete tower blocks built in the 1960s and 1970s to house the first immigrants. “Household appliances are a bit more dangerous. A falling television or a toaster, it could kill you.”
Bigot, 30, was on the front line in an increasingly desperate battle yesterday as the worst street violence seen in France for more than a decade spread from the Paris suburbs to other cities, with 250 people arrested and 900 vehicles torched on Friday night. This was the highest nightly total in a spate of rioting that followed the death 10 days ago of two youths apparently fleeing from the police.
Trouble was reported in Strasbourg, in eastern France, Rennes, Rouen and Lille in the northwest and Nice, Toulouse and Avignon in the south. In the Paris region, two nurseries, one in Yvelines and another in Bretigny-sur-Orge, were set on fire on Friday night along with a school in Seine-et-Marne.
In Meaux, a town east of the capital, youths threw Molotov cocktails at paramedics, whose patient was taken to hospital under police escort.
Last night the rioters returned, setting more than 600 cars on fire across France, and burning down a nursery school in Grigny, south of Paris. Rampaging youths also torched cars in central Paris for the first time since the disturbances began.
In the Normandy town of Evreux, arsonists laid waste to at least 50 vehicles, a shopping centre, a post office and two schools.
The Foreign Office urged British holidaymakers to be “extremely vigilant” in riot-hit areas. America warned its tourists to keep away from troublespots.
After an emergency cabinet meeting yesterday, Nicolas Sarkozy, the tough-talking interior minister, warned rioters that their actions could “cost dear in terms of sentences”. But he also promised to tackle the causes of violence, conceding that there were “a certain number of injustices in some neighbourhoods”.
France’s media and its politicians have portrayed the rioting as a form of protest against poverty, racial discrimination and the desperation felt by immigrant families who live in the cités — the grim housing estates erected a generation ago, often near big factories, to accommodate a booming immigrant population.
Attacks against firefighters or ambulance crews trying to save immigrant families from the flames suggested something more perverse than despair, however, and the divided government seemed at a loss over how to deal with the problem.
“Without question what is taking place bears all the hallmarks of being co-ordinated,” Yves Bot, the Paris public prosecutor, said yesterday. “The way things are organised is in response to a strategy, with mobile tactics employed by youths who turn up on scooters, throw a lighted bottle at a vehicle and then leave.”
France has often tried to ignore the malaise in what police call “sensitive districts” or, collectively, “the zone”, a world far removed from the picturesque French tourist trail of restaurants, wine and historic monuments.
In these underprivileged pockets the burning of cars on a Saturday night is for many young men a popular sport and rite of passage that seldom makes news. According to one recent estimate, about 30 cars are set on fire every Saturday night in suburbs across France.
The sheer scale of last week’s clashes, however, made them difficult to ignore, particularly with the government acknowledging that it might deploy troops to prevent gangs from marauding through the affluent heart of Paris, a chilling prospect for a city that has come to regard its burgeoning immigrant community on the other side of the ring road as the barbarians at the gate.
Aulnay-sous-Bois is only a few miles from the Eiffel tower but last week parts of it resembled Baghdad. The Renault car dealership looked as if it had taken a direct hit from a car bomb. Black, twisted bits of metal were scarcely recognisable as the remains of vehicles waiting to be sold.
“Well, that’s just great isn’t it,” said Manuel Pires, 55, a Portuguese immigrant surveying the wreckage. “What do they think they’re playing at? They’ve just put all of these garage employees out of work. Talk about shooting yourself in the head.”
Pires, a driver who is married with two grown-up children, has some sympathy for Sarkozy, who raised eyebrows last week by referring to the troublemakers as “scum” that needed to be hosed out of the estates.
The interior minister may have been “a bit direct”, Pires said, “but let’s face it, we do need a bit of order around here. None of the other politicians seems prepared to confront reality. The gangs have taken over. It is a question of restoring law and order”. Several thousand Aulnay residents, singing the national anthem, took to the streets yesterday demanding just that.
Not everybody agreed with Pires. Arguments from politicians across the spectrum about the root causes of violence have multiplied with the hurling of each firebomb.
France’s Muslim population has swollen in recent years to an estimated 6m — 10% of the total population. That percentage could easily double in the next 20 years and compares with about 1.5m — or less than 3% — in Britain.
The ugly, often poorly maintained, blocks of public housing in which many live are a testament to 40 years of government policy that concentrated immigrants and their families in well-defined districts, often in the vicinity of big factories that attracted the first generation of grateful immigrant workers.
Today these districts on the outskirts of Paris and other cities have become hotbeds of joblessness and crime — a parallel society with its own laws in spite of the lip service that government officials continually pay to the notion of integration. Women are often forced to wear veils. In one district a municipal swimming pool was persuaded to offer a period of “women only” bathing each day to satisfy a fundamentalist imam.
Police, meanwhile, were told to “tread softly”. They seldom set foot in the quartiers chauds, or “hot districts”, until Sarkozy arrived on the scene. He introduced the “zero tolerance” policing that was famed for taming the badlands of America: police began stopping and searching youths on the streets and conducting raids in the housing estates.
“They are sometimes frisked up to 10 times a day,” said Dounia Bouzar, an expert on French-born Muslims. “Given the way these kids live, I wonder why it (the rioting) doesn’t happen more often.”
Michel Lereste, a social worker, said that resentment felt by many young immigrants had been crystallised by the deaths 10 days ago of two youths electrocuted in a power station where they had hidden after wrongly thinking they were being chased by police.
The ringleaders are well known to police from previous clashes and many have served jail sentences. Others appeared to join in “for fun”, snapping photographs of burning cars with mobile phones in between throwing stones.
In Le Blanc Mesnil, a Paris district, last week Hassan, a 15-year-old schoolboy, claimed his cité was involved in an “intifada” against French authorities — a reference to the Palestinian uprising against Israel in the Gaza Strip and West Bank. “The violence won’t stop until Sarkozy resigns,” he said.
That seemed unlikely and in the end Sarkozy may suffer less from the riots than Dominique de Villepin, the prime minister and his chief rival in the race to succeed Jacques Chirac as president in 2007.
Sarkozy’s tough language against the rioters will at least win him support on the right, while de Villepin did not help his cause by losing his temper with MPs who were critical of his handling of the affair.
As pressure mounted on the government, de Villepin, who was forced to cancel a trip to Canada, met a group of 15 young people from the Paris suburbs on Friday night to discuss ways of restoring calm.
There were concerns, according to some analysts, that the biggest beneficiaries of the latest explosion could be extreme right-wing politicians such as Jean-Marie Le Pen, head of the National Front party, who wants to put an end to the “Islamisation” of France.
Despite his blunt rhetoric, Sarkozy does not come anywhere near that. He has adopted a subtle two-pronged approach — a kind of Gallic “tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime” — that has wrong-footed his critics. Besides advocating a crackdown he is also proposing affirmative action to help young people.
They probably need it. Jean-François Amadieu, a university professor who has studied discrimination, sought to demonstrate it by sending out fake applications for jobs. He found applicants with addresses in “difficult” areas received half as many invitations to an interview as those from more salubrious districts.
Some, nevertheless, have made it. Jamel Debbouze, a comic actor famous for his cracks about life on the estates, has become one of France’s best-paid entertainers; Faiza Guène, a 19-year-old from an Algerian family, has embarked upon a lucrative literary career with a debut novel whose heroine was described as “a Bridget Jones teenager of the suburbs”.
Too often, however, the fame of women from the estates is built on tales of horrific abuse. Samira Bellil, another young woman of Algerian origin, has written a book about being subjected to repeated gang rapes, a sickeningly common crime. On one occasion she was dragged off a crowded train by a gang of youths who wanted to rape her. Nobody lifted a finger to help.
“Terrible things are happening here,” said Mohammed Bouheiri, an elderly vegetable seller chatting with friends on a street corner. “The government must not neglect us.”
Perhaps Devils' Island should be reactivated in order that French authorities move their immigrants into a proper environment.
"Suddenly a television fell out of the sky in front of him.
It had been heaved over a balcony eight floors up and shattered on the ground."
I thought this part of France consisted of the downtrodden. What are the downtrodden doing with TV sets? I didn't even own a TV until I was much older than these extremists. These rioters, insurgents, whatever you want to call them, are not poor -- they're a bunch of ungrateful, selfish, elitist savages.
What more can I say?
The biggest news to me, however, is that CNN EUROPE will NOT report on this!! I am sitting in Germany now and neither will ANY OF THE GERMAN STATIONS!!
Even TELE5, the French station, is not concentrating on this as too big a story. They had a panel discussion just now. I can understand French from having gone to university in Canada:
An American leftist who spoke great French (like Jane Fonda does) was just explaining the parallels between this and the Rodney King riots. He was trying to sympathize with the rioters. His mistake? The French leftists on the panel were furious that he implied that this was an *ethnic* riot! "This has nothing to do with race or religion" they cried with so much fury that I was sure they would attack him physically on TV. Their spin is that this riot indicates the need for the overthrow of Sarkazy and the last vestiges of right wing reactionism against the inevitable progression of the proletariat and downtrodden third world.
That the American leftist noted the South Central LA Riots calmed down when 8000 soldiers were sent to the scene: that brought the most bile! His fellow panelists were like: "Typical American...he thinks that you can solve every problem with the military."
American leftists have to understand that they cannot win. They are considered right wingers by their international counterparts and would be executed along with the rest of us if there was ever a victory of international socialism over Amerika.
Its Sunday evening over there. Has the nightly fun for the children started yet?
The French should crush these muslim bastards and announce they're sending troops/military police to Iraq, but the chances of either happening are slim and none. I guess they're destined to become the first region of the new country of Eurabia.
I think the Germans might be worried the fun and games may jump to their cities.
The French are clearly occupying their homeland. Israel has dealt with this problem for years, and France has called many times for Jews to withdraw. I think we can all agree that France needs to respect the human rights of these people and give them Paris.
It seems to me one problem that they would have with bringing in their troops is that France has a draft, and 15% of their troops are Muslim - surly Muslims according to some reports.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1516807/posts
Very insightful.
I've got a feeling Sarkozy is the next prime minister.
From what I have heard the last place in the world you want to be sent is a french prison. No weight lifting equipment, basketball courts, etc. Not like the Holiday camps and thug training schools our prisons have become. But the bottom line, summing up the problem to one word....Balkanization.
Thank you for elaborating. The articles I saw merely mentioned that they were trying to hide from police at an electrical station.
Still, the police maintain they were not chasing them.
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The real question is, "Is America listening? (And watching?)" People insist it "couldn't happen" here because Muslims are well-treated. I am not sure that matters.
Excellent. Let France burn.
Europe serves as an example of what economic and national security policies NOT to pursue.
Europe is collapsing and exposes the leftist socialist experiment as the utter nonsense that it is.
Personally, I am surprised the French haven't yet surrendered to the Muslim horde amongst them. Based on the French reaction I am seeing to date, I suspect they are effectively all but surrendering anyway - it's just a matter of time before they make it official.
As many German soldiers noted during the Nazi invasion of France in 1940 - "it's as if the French have no will to defend their own land". In 65 years, apparently little has changed.
If Sarkozy really wants to end this Eurabian Intifada, he can start by advocating the end to all Muslim immigration to France, then apply massive sentences to all rioters, followed by the deportation of the family of anyone convicted of taking part of this violence (on their own dime, they can sit in detention facilities until they can cough up the dough for their own plane ticket out). Additionally, all foreign Imam's and spiritual leaders should be barred from entry to France, and all French imams whom preach violence should have their citizenship revoked (they can also sit in detention until they can afford a plane ticket to whatever Islamic country they wish to return to).
Longbow
I think it's organized, and that France was the next in line after another soft country, Spain. If France capitulates as many predict it will, the rest of Europe had better watch out. They all, heck, WE all, think it can't happen elsewhere. Of course it can, and it will unless everyone starts showing some backbone.
Logical solution. I'm not sure the French (and most Europeans) are logical.
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