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Pirates attack luxury cruise ship [New details]
Scotland on Sunday ^ | November 6, 2005 | by WILLIAM LYONS

Posted on 11/06/2005 7:39:59 AM PST by aculeus

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Do cruise ships carry arms?

A few crew members armed with shotguns could make matters uncomfortable for a boarding party.

1 posted on 11/06/2005 7:40:00 AM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus

Why would anyone want to cruise near Somolia?


2 posted on 11/06/2005 7:41:53 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: aculeus

I thought all merchant ships had a small armory....


3 posted on 11/06/2005 7:43:02 AM PST by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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Armed men on board two 25ft inflatable boats fired live bullets and rocket-propelled grenades as they tried to climb aboard the liner.

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4 posted on 11/06/2005 7:44:06 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: nevergore

My motorhome has a slide-out living room. Surely, cruise ships could be fitted with slide-out armored gun turrets. Flamethrowers sound good too.


5 posted on 11/06/2005 7:45:28 AM PST by umgud (Comment removed by poster before moderator could get to it)
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To: aculeus
I think it would be kinda fun to be in a mega-behemoth cruise ship attacked by "pirates" in a fleaboat. What a tale to tell the grandkiddies.

Yo, ho, ho and a bottle of rum!

Leni

6 posted on 11/06/2005 7:45:37 AM PST by MinuteGal (This Week is my Seventh Anniversary on this Forum...and I'm Still in Love with Free Republic!)
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To: mlc9852
"Why would anyone want to cruise near Somolia?"

I'm told that Mogadishu is lovely this time of year.

7 posted on 11/06/2005 7:46:19 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: aculeus

A better ending to the story would have been for the pirates to be blown out of the water with some 54-calibre Mark 42 single gun mounts - should be standard equipment for all trans-Atlantic cruise ships.


8 posted on 11/06/2005 7:46:33 AM PST by SamAdams76 (What Would Howard Roarke Do?)
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To: aculeus
A few machine gun rounds would have ended that incident. Time to have them handy and teach these creeps a lesson.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... wonder if they're religion of peace believers ... .
9 posted on 11/06/2005 7:46:49 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: billorites

I'm sure - LOL.


10 posted on 11/06/2005 7:47:28 AM PST by mlc9852
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Allah Aaaarrgghhh!!


11 posted on 11/06/2005 7:47:35 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. T)
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To: MinuteGal
I think it would be kinda fun to be in a mega-behemoth cruise ship attacked by "pirates" in a fleaboat.

It is kinda difficult to imagine how -- exactly -- they planned to board ship.

12 posted on 11/06/2005 7:48:10 AM PST by aculeus
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I think all they had for defense were water hoses. No kidding.

If the pirates had managed to board, they would have been able to steal a king's fortune in cash and jewelry from the very rich passengers.

The ship was very lucky.


13 posted on 11/06/2005 7:48:27 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: aculeus

This really plays up the class envy angle, to a factually dishonest degree. The reality is that the cost for this all inclusive vacation option is about $300-400 per person per day, if you are in a standard room with a balcony. I highly doubt that Trump or Gates has ever been a passenger onboard, unless they chartered the whole ship. And the Conde Nast rating of "the most luxurious in the world" sounds dubious. Yes, Seabourne rates at or near the top of small ship cruise lines in their reader's choice poll, but that's it.


14 posted on 11/06/2005 7:49:51 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: aculeus; Howlin; neverdem

Photo's show aach open boat - only slightly larger than a Boston Whaler - ONLY held 5-6 people.

When everybody is disarmed (Because they were searched and x-rayed prior to getting on the cruise ship!), only the criminals will have arms.

ONly a few weapons, held by 4-5 crew members - could have held off the whole raiding party.

Next pirate ship only need be bigger - as they are off the Indonesian straits.


15 posted on 11/06/2005 7:50:19 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (-I contribute to FR monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS supports Hillary's Secular Sexual Socialism every day.)
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To: aculeus

Most ports of call and most countries that flag cruise liners, tankers and freighters don't allow them to have any defensive fire arms aboard.

These rules are just nuts as the terrorists and pirates are out there and very bold. Maybe the ship owners ban arms as they hire multi national crews can't expect the low wages to ensure loyalty to the ship or captain.


16 posted on 11/06/2005 7:50:20 AM PST by RicocheT
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To: aculeus

I'm pretty sure they have a modest arsenal under lock and key. But for inflatable boats, all you'd need is a CO2 airgun.


17 posted on 11/06/2005 7:50:44 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: nevergore

Doubtful. Weapons would get you hassled in almost every port.


18 posted on 11/06/2005 7:51:47 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: SamAdams76
A better ending to the story would have been for the pirates to be blown out of the water with some 54-calibre Mark 42 single gun mounts - should be standard equipment for all trans-Atlantic cruise ships.

Nah, a couple of dual 3"/50 mounts should be quite sufficient. At least that's what the Navy told us on our Leahy-class DLG's. :=)

19 posted on 11/06/2005 7:52:23 AM PST by Bob
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To: aculeus
Dammit!
What's the world coming to when paying 50 times as much for a service doesn't make it safe?

The passengers all contribute to the right muslim causes, too.
Where's the gratitude?

...200-man crew and no security??? Those boats should have been not just repelled, but sunk!

20 posted on 11/06/2005 7:52:24 AM PST by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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