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Science as Kansas sees it
Kansas City Star ^ | 11/6/05 | David Klepper

Posted on 11/06/2005 6:26:17 AM PST by Non-Sequitur

In the beginning, when voters created the Kansas Board of Education to oversee schools, those intelligent designers couldn’t have imagined it would go forth and multiply all this controversy.

The board could close the latest chapter of the evolution debate Tuesday when it is set to vote on science curriculum standards that change the definition of science and cast doubt on the theory of evolution. It’s possible another administrative delay could postpone the vote, but the approval is seen as inevitable.

Inevitable, maybe. Permanent, maybe not. The standards won’t go into effect until the 2007 school year. By then the school board could look dramatically different if moderates are successful in unseating conservatives in the November 2006 elections, both sides say. That could make the new standards moot, and start the whole debate over again. Both sides say the controversy has been too heated, and the implications for science, religion and education too great, for any easy solution.

The board’s conservative majority says it’s merely injecting criticism of what it calls a blindly accepted theory, and allowing students to decide for themselves. And they have their supporters. Polls indicate most Kansans have doubts about evolution and don’t dismiss the idea of teaching alternatives. Other states like Ohio and schools in Georgia and Pennsylvania have joined the debate as well.

“We want students to understand more about evolution, not less,” said John Calvert, leader of the Intelligent Design Network and one of the driving forces behind the changes. Intelligent Design is the belief that aspects of the natural world show signs of design, and not random evolution. “To understand a claim, you should also understand those aspects of the claim that some people think are problematic. That’s all these changes do.”

Moderates disagree and aren’t conceding defeat. They hope to unseat enough conservative board members in November 2006 to retake control of the board in time to change the standards back. They say the revisions to the standards are a step toward creationism and an unacceptable marriage of religion and public education. The changes, they say, jeopardize the state’s efforts to grow the bioscience industry and hurt school children who will one day graduate to an ever globalizing high-tech economy.

“This is distracting us from the goal of making sure every kid is well-educated,” said board member Sue Gamble, a Shawnee moderate. “Regular people are starting to say, ‘Enough is enough. We’ve got to stand up for ourselves.’ ”

In 1999, the board voted to remove most references to evolution, the origin of the universe and the age of the Earth. The next year, voters responded and the board’s majority went to moderates. The standards were changed back.

In politics, however, there’s no such thing as extinction: conservatives regrouped, retaking the majority in 2004.

“The state board used to be a pretty mundane office,” said Kansas State University political science professor Joe Aistrup. “But this is a clash of ideas, and it reverberates up and down, with everything that’s going on with conservatives and moderates. It’s not surprising that it’s become this high-profile, and voters will remember.”

The board’s 10 members serve four-year terms. Every two years, five seats come up for election. Conservative board members John Bacon of Olathe, Connie Morris of St. Francis, Iris Van Meter of Thayer and Ken Willard of Hutchinson all face re-election in November 2006, as does Waugh. Not every incumbent has announced re-election plans, but most are expected to run.

Conservative groups say they’re ready for a fight, and say the evolution issue cuts both ways.

“People will vote their wishes,” Bacon said. “I think the public of Kansas supports what we’re doing.”

Doubts about Darwin

The board routinely reviews curriculum standards for just about every facet of education, kindergarten through high school. The standards are the basis for state assessment tests and serve as a template for local school districts and teachers. Local districts are not required to teach the standards — they just risk lower assessment scores if they choose not to.

When a 27-member committee of scientists and teachers began the process of updating the standards, a vocal minority proposed inserting criticism of evolution. Six members of the Board of Education applauded the changes, and agreed to put most of them into the standards. Now the board is poised to put the amended standards to a final vote.

The changes to the standards incorporate substantial criticism of evolutionary theory, calling into question the theory made famous by Charles Darwin. Supporters say there isn’t proof of the origin and variety of life and the genetic code. The changes also alter the definition of science to allow for non-natural explanations.

Supporters of the changes say they don’t want children indoctrinated with an unproven theory. The board had two weeks of hearings in May to hear testimony from scientists who dispute evolution. Conservative board members said they made their case.

Calling them a farcical publicity stunt, mainstream scientists boycotted the hearings. Nobel Prize winners, scientists and religious leaders signed petitions opposing what they said was a blurring of the lines between science and religion and thinly veiled push for creationism.

Bloggers and national comedians lampooned the hearings as national and international media poured into Topeka. Board members say they received mocking e-mails from around the world. If the ridicule got to them, the conservatives won’t say. But they admit to a certain evolution fatigue.

“I’m extremely anxious to put this behind us,” Morris said. She has been a strong critic of evolution, even calling it “impossible” in a newsletter to supporters.

Other states have seen similar fights to change the way evolution is taught. Education officials in Ohio changed science standards there to cast doubt on evolution. A Georgia school district tried to put stickers on textbooks that read “Evolution is a theory, not a fact.” A judge later ruled the stickers illegal, saying their message promotes Christian fundamentalism. And a legal challenge is now in court in Dover, Pa., where school officials voted to include alternative explanations to evolution.

Morris and her fellow conservatives cite polls that show Kansans have doubts when it comes to evolution. The Kansas City Star conducted a poll last summer and 55 percent said they believe in either creationism or intelligent design — more than double the 26 percent who said they believe evolution to be responsible for the origin of life. But opponents say that’s beside the point: Most Americans say they believe in God, too, but that doesn’t mean he should be taught in public schools.

“I believe in the Biblical account of creation,” Waugh said. “But it has no place in the science class. In a comparative religions class, sure. The best place to teach is at home or at your place of worship.”

Board members say the public is behind them, and that unseating them on Election Day won’t be easy.

“People come up to me and tell me we’re doing the right thing,” Van Meter said. “We wouldn’t do this if Kansans didn’t support it.”

All eyes on Kansas

Evolution turned this little-known governmental entity into a battleground in the state’s clash between conservatives and moderates. And that’s the way it’s likely to stay for a while.

This year, it’s not just the board’s take on evolution that’s stirred controversy. Conservatives also want to make it easier for parents to pull children from sex education classes, and last month they chose Bob Corkins as education commissioner, even though he had no experience teaching or running schools.

All those issues prompted a group of Kansas residents to form the Kansas Alliance for Education, a group with the goal of defeating board conservatives. Alliance leader Don Hineman, a cattle rancher from Dighton, Kan., said the group will work to support candidates and get out the vote.

“There’s a sense of frustration that I think many Kansans share,” he said. “The conservative majority on the board is focused on a narrow agenda, at the expense of their objective, which is improving education for Kansas children.”

He’s not alone. Harry McDonald, an Olathe resident and the leader of Kansas Citizens for Science, has announced his candidacy for the seat now occupied by John Bacon. More candidates are expected.

“We need to take down two to retake the majority,” Gamble said. “I’m focused on four, but that’s an enormous undertaking.”

Calvert, the intelligent design leader, said he knows the evolution debate will factor into the election. No matter what happens at the polls, he said the public is coming around to the notion of challenging one of science’s sacred cows.

“It’s going to happen,” he said. “It’s really what the public wants. Anybody who takes these changes out really needs to be thinking seriously about what they’re doing.”

If conservatives hold on to the majority, Gamble said she expects a legal challenge to the new science standards. If moderates unseat conservatives, the latter will pour its energies into the next election, even if some conservatives admit to being weary of the fray.

Kris Van Meteren is a conservative activist who helped get his mother, Iris Van Meter, on the school board. He’s part of the effort that has kept evolution front and center. He said he hopes it’s not necessary, but his side will keep pushing until evolution comes down from its pedestal in the academic world.

“We’re not in this for one or two elections,” said Van Meteren, who changed his name to reflect his Dutch heritage. “That was clear in ’99 when we lost control of the board. Everybody thought, ‘They’re gone, that’s over.’ But even if we lose another election, we’re not going away.”


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To: furball4paws
I notice you don't show the cables linked to the 6502.

Let's see: Load Register was 172, wasn't it? Or 160?

121 posted on 11/06/2005 5:41:36 PM PST by LogicWings
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To: LogicWings; b_sharp

I honestly don't remember, but I bet dull ol'sharp will.


122 posted on 11/06/2005 5:48:03 PM PST by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: LogicWings
Hey! I'm in the lead. I spotted two already.
123 posted on 11/06/2005 5:48:21 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: js1138

Behe is Belie a couple of times - somewhat appropriate :)


124 posted on 11/06/2005 5:56:13 PM PST by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping.


125 posted on 11/06/2005 6:04:04 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: Gumlegs

Why were you there with all them young 'uns?


126 posted on 11/06/2005 6:12:10 PM PST by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: PatrickHenry
A minor quibble in the summation:

"Consider the example that Ken Miller gave. Evolutionary biologists were confronted with the fact that we have two fewer chromosomes than chimpanzees, the creatures hypothesized to be our closest living ancestors based on molecular evidence and homologies."
[emphasis added]

I assume he meant to say "closest living relatives with an ancestor in common with man" ... nobody thinks chimps were our ancestors.

127 posted on 11/06/2005 6:13:45 PM PST by longshadow
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To: longshadow

Yeah, but all in all, he did quite well for someone who isn't a biologist.


128 posted on 11/06/2005 6:20:03 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Reality is a harsh mistress. No rationality, no mercy)
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To: longshadow
I assume he meant to say "closest living relatives with an ancestor in common with man" ... nobody thinks chimps were our ancestors.

Don't tell anybody, but that last common ancestor of humans and chimps would have looked a heck of a lot more like a chimp than like us.

129 posted on 11/06/2005 6:23:19 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: TheGeezer
Having nothing better to do today I went back and read every post to you.

I have collected my share of insults for the week.

There were no insults to you, just statements of theory, facts and evidence.

This is typical ploy. Debate for a while and then falsely complain about the treatment you received.

What I believe ID proponents desire is to be able at least to express their disagreement with the implicit, exclusionary materialism of TOE.

What you believe is irrelevant. Try dealing in facts from time to time. Or as you say:

I apologize for wasting your time. But you do wax personally offensive, for example:

I understand your frustrations

Who are you to judge and make assumptions about the emotions of others? Hmmmm? Why don't you stick to the facts and leave the emotions of others out of it? Because you would lose the debate, Hmmmmm?

not scholarly but jocular

You have a lousy sense of humor then. The "jocularity" wasn't evident. Perhaps at your advanced age, you could take a class.

When encountering those whose approach to evolution is purely materialistic

The TOE can only be materialistic, by definition, otherwise it wouldn't be science. Non-materialist science is a contradiction in terms. All evidence is natural, materialistic (if that includes energy as part of "materialism" - the flaw in the criticism) or it isn't evidence. There is nothing you can do to get around this point.

Like it or not, that is where the academy took the theory. Implicit to TOE is the "science" of denial of design.

There is no such thing as the "science" of something that is "denial." Denial is a negative assertion and science is only concerned with the positive evidence of something. This statement is irrational.


130 posted on 11/06/2005 6:31:43 PM PST by LogicWings
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To: VadeRetro

I hate to break it to you guys, but we are monkeys. It has been proven:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513930/posts?page=139#139


131 posted on 11/06/2005 6:35:16 PM PST by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: VadeRetro
Don't tell anybody, but that last common ancestor of humans and chimps would have looked a heck of a lot more like a chimp than like us.

Agreed; but it wasn't a chimp..... it WAS an ape!

;-)

132 posted on 11/06/2005 6:36:44 PM PST by longshadow
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To: PatrickHenry
Yeah, but all in all, he did quite well for someone who isn't a biologist.

Yeah; but I bet his proof reader got 20 lashes after court adjourned.....

133 posted on 11/06/2005 6:38:31 PM PST by longshadow
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To: furball4paws
Scriptural evidence! It's in the Ramayana and stuff. Must be true.
134 posted on 11/06/2005 6:45:21 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Even Laws change more easily than theory. Bode's Law and the Dulong-Petit Law for example. Cole's Law changes daily, at least in good diners.
135 posted on 11/06/2005 6:55:09 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: balrog666

136 posted on 11/06/2005 6:58:02 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: js1138
The only things that the board wanted the students to hear about evolution were negative things - there are gaps, it is a theory not a fact - language that defendants' own expert Steve Fuller admitted is misleading, and denigrates the theory of evolution. As Dr. Fuller and plaintiffs' expert Brian Alters agreed, the board's message was: we're teaching evolution because we have to. As if their views weren't clear enough, the board issued a newsletter which accused the scientific community of using different meanings of the word "evolution" to their advantage, as if scientists were trying to trick people into believing something that there isn't evidence to support.

Your Honor, you may remember Cyndi Sneath's testimony about her seven year old son Griffin, who is fascinated by science. This board is telling Griffin that scientists are just tricking you. It's telling students like Griffin the same thing Mr. Buckingham told Max Pell. Don't go off to college where you will be " brainwashed." Don't research the theory of evolution. The board is delivering Michael Behe's message. Don't bother studying the development of the immune system - you're just doomed to failure.

Wow.

137 posted on 11/06/2005 7:02:48 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: VadeRetro

I said nearly. What I left out is that during the OCR process it stops on questionable words. Tehe firs dozen were right, and I was in a hurry, so I told to not to ask again.

If I had had the patience, it would have caught most of the errors.


138 posted on 11/06/2005 7:51:07 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


139 posted on 11/06/2005 7:54:25 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: hosepipe
Thank you so much for your insights! Indeed, there is so much couching of terms these days to "spin" it is increasingly difficult to see clearly what is intended.
140 posted on 11/06/2005 8:07:04 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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