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Cruise line re-evaluating route following pirate attack
Yahoo ^ | 11-5-05 | (AFP)

Posted on 11/05/2005 3:45:08 PM PST by george76

Seabourn Cruise Lines, whose luxury ship was attacked by pirates in the Indian Ocean, will re-evaluate whether to continue cruises off the coast of Somalia following the attack...

"We don't know of any other time where a cruise ship has been attacked by pirates," she told CNN.

"They generally tend to (attack) tankers and freighters that have very small number of crew on board.

"We do know, of course, that the Indian Ocean is an area that we have to be more alert, and we were traveling through the area in a high state of alert," ...

the pirates were armed with machine guns and a rocket-propelled grenade launcher.

"The captain tried to run one of the boats over, but they were small boats, about 25 feet (eight meters) long," he said.

"Each one had four or five people on it, and (the captain) said he was going to do anything to keep them from getting on board."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 173; africa; gwot; indianocean; maritime; pirate; religionofpeace; seabourn; seabournspirit; somalia; waronterror; wot
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To: mmercier

"I looked out of the window and saw a small boat with about five people in it about 20 yards (20m) away.

"One of them clearly had a rifle. Later I realised that two of them had rifles and one had some kind of rocket launcher.

"They were firing the rifle and then fired the rocket launcher twice. One of the rockets certainly hit the ship - it went through the side of the liner into a passenger's suite. The couple were in there at the time so it was a bit of an unpleasant experience.

'A bit scared'

"Fortunately they weren't hurt but you can just imagine what it would have been like if they had been standing up because obviously the cabin was very badly damaged.

"I only saw one boat, although the captain said there were two. At first I didn't know what was going on, but when I saw the rocket launcher I started getting a bit scared."

Mr Fisher said the cruise liner's captain made an announcement about 15 minutes later, saying: "Stay inside, stay inside, we are under attack".

"Then he told us to go the restaurant in the middle of the ship and wait.

"The atmosphere in the restaurant was a little tense. People were pretty good and they weren't panicking, but one or two were certainly looking nervous," Mr Fisher said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4410826.stm


21 posted on 11/05/2005 4:16:50 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: woofer

22 posted on 11/05/2005 4:19:13 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: stumpy; Felicity Fahrquar
Nah, just mount a few "ma deuces" on the rails. That will keep them out of rpg range.

Sort of reminds me of the final scene of "THE ISLAND"

23 posted on 11/05/2005 4:20:45 PM PST by Experiment 6-2-6 (Admn Mods: tiny, malicious things that glare and gibber from dark corners.They have pins and dolls..)
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To: weegee

The waters off the Somalian coast are considered the most dangerous in the world.

This week, the London-based International Maritime Bureau said it knew of 27 pirate attacks off Somalia since March.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/11/05/pirates-somalia051105.html


24 posted on 11/05/2005 4:23:20 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Threepwood

Ships will turn their firehoses on small boats if they are threatened. You can pretty much swamp and sink 'em that way.


25 posted on 11/05/2005 4:25:17 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: george76

I know, it's cruise ship. They have a security staff, and are trained to use firehoses to repel borders. That's boring old reality.

However, in my perfect world, I would much perfer that pirates were riddled with gunfire and rockets. That's pretty much what high-seas pirates exist for. Actually come to think of it, I would probably PAY to be on a cruise that was actually armed bait for Pirates in the Somali sea!

"Mr.Threepwood, Pirates in sight. Tell the crew to draw cutlasses, eye patches, and ensure they shout *Arrg!* in as loud a voice possible. Also, do turn on the Gabriel launcher on the canasta deck, I think we use it today.

Aye Aye Captain Killthemdead!"


26 posted on 11/05/2005 4:29:21 PM PST by Threepwood
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To: george76

If the UN is supposed to be an international organization, what are they doing to secure international waters?


27 posted on 11/05/2005 4:30:39 PM PST by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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To: Threepwood

Hoist the white flag and hose them with a flamethrower when they approach.


28 posted on 11/05/2005 4:35:10 PM PST by umgud (Comment removed by poster before moderator could get to it)
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To: Experiment 6-2-6

Not familiar with that one. But I do know you can reach out and touch somebody a looooong way off with a "ma deuce". Makes inflatables deflate real quickly too.


29 posted on 11/05/2005 4:35:36 PM PST by stumpy
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To: george76

Most ports of call and most countries that flag cruise liners, tankers and freighters don't allow them to have any defensive fire arms aboard.

These rules are just nuts as the terrorists and pirates are out there and very bold. Maybe the ship owners ban arms as they hire multi national crews can't expect the low wages to ensure loyalty to the ship or captain.


30 posted on 11/05/2005 4:37:47 PM PST by RicocheT
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To: martin_fierro
Somalia coming up, next stop Yemen.

What in the world was that shipping line thinking.

That line's cruises are VERY expensive.

31 posted on 11/05/2005 4:38:06 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: martin_fierro

"That Somalian coastline is so freakin' scenic, after all..."

Hmmmmmmk.....I know I will think twice before booking a cruise that takes me anywhere in, around, or near a "turd world country".


32 posted on 11/05/2005 4:58:49 PM PST by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: stumpy
A Peter Benchley novel turned to film, with Micheal Caine who finds himself captured by Pirates. They go and loot a beautiful schooner, but dump the heroin overboard. A USCG Cutter follows the trail of bobbing drugs to the island, where the pirates board and kill everyone onboard, except that Michael Caine gets loose and then gets behind a twin fifty and lets loose..

Very nice scene..

33 posted on 11/05/2005 5:04:41 PM PST by Experiment 6-2-6 (Admn Mods: tiny, malicious things that glare and gibber from dark corners.They have pins and dolls..)
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To: george76

Religion of Pieces of Eight?


34 posted on 11/05/2005 5:05:04 PM PST by Jhensy
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To: george76
It's pathetic the MSM is using the idiotic and fanciful term "pirate" in this story.

These were TERRORISTS, now and always TERRORISTS. Not boyish, dimpled, Johnny Depp swashbucklers.

Bloodthirsty, maniacal, murderous TERRORISTS.
35 posted on 11/05/2005 5:10:48 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ('Deserves' got nothing to do with it.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
A Future Pirate?


36 posted on 11/05/2005 6:03:31 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

That may be one of the best solutions to the problem, George!


37 posted on 11/05/2005 6:13:01 PM PST by Bazooka (Just say what you think. They hate our guts anyway.)
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To: Bazooka

In June, a U.N.-chartered ship carrying 935 tons of rice for Somali victims of the Asian tsunami was hijacked by pirates, who held crew members hostage for three months before releasing them.


38 posted on 11/05/2005 6:41:19 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
It has been reported that there have been a number of attempts before. If this region is so lawless, then why doesn't that cruise line have armed security on that route?

Has anybody heard a report that weapons were used to stop the boats from approaching? Any report of the type of weapons, the number of security guards on board?

Please post if you get any of this info and ping me. We cruise. I would suggest that anybody who goes on a cruise inquire about the manpower, training and weapons that are on board in case of a hijack or piracy attempt.
39 posted on 11/05/2005 6:46:48 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: weegee

You forgot your sarcasm tag.


40 posted on 11/05/2005 7:27:23 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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