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Fat, seditious pig!
1 posted on 11/05/2005 11:59:48 AM PST by johnny7
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I urge the 'Rats and the WaPO and NYT to come clean on their attempts to falsely bring Bush down.


2 posted on 11/05/2005 12:01:18 PM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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Are AP and ABC still news organizations, or have they become PR firms for the DNC?


3 posted on 11/05/2005 12:04:33 PM PST by NewMediaFan (Fake but accurate)
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President Bush should "come clean" about any White House officials involved in the leak of the name of undercover CIA operative Valerie Plame and "honor his pledge to fire all those involved," Sen. Barbara Mikulski of Maryland said


What makes her think he hasn't?
4 posted on 11/05/2005 12:04:58 PM PST by wolfpat (Congress is the only whorehouse in America that loses money.)
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She needs to seriesly STFU!


5 posted on 11/05/2005 12:05:00 PM PST by jdm
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Mikulski also said she was disappointed that Bush did not nominate a woman to replace retiring Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor.

Oh, she would have been thrilled with a JRB nomination. At least it's another leftist quote we can save for next time.

6 posted on 11/05/2005 12:05:12 PM PST by Forest Keeper
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undercover CIA operative Valerie Plame

It is my understanding that at the time her name was "leaked" (even thought the idiot did a photo op in Vanity Fair), she was no longer an undercover operative.

If that is the case, WHY has this been allowed to happen? Why was this thing not shut down by this fact alone?

7 posted on 11/05/2005 12:05:52 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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"Sen. Barbara Mikulski of Maryland said Saturday in the Democrats' weekly radio address."

Well, she is a DEMOCRAT, so what's so surprising that she is attacking Bush. And this was the Dems weekly radio address, so it was not an attack by her individually, though she delivered it, this was the DEMOCRATS attacking President Bush in their weekly radio address.

Despicable, but hardly surprising.


11 posted on 11/05/2005 12:08:39 PM PST by FairOpinion (CA Props: Vote for Reform: YES on 73-78, NO on 79 & 80, NO on Y)
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Glad to see that the Fitz non-indictment of Rove has gone upside Babs fat head like a cue stick.


14 posted on 11/05/2005 12:09:09 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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Bush voted "Movie Villain of the Year"


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I lot of the undecided people I have talked to say that Phonyheit-911 just made them want to vote for Bush, because the movie was so shameless and so full of lies. Thanks Mike Moore--GOP hero! By the way nice comment on Mikulski, she is a lezbo, funny how that hasn't been in the news either.

19 posted on 10/27/2004 2:09:45 PM CDT by MD4Bush (Bush must win)

15 posted on 11/05/2005 12:11:11 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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She Who Shall Not Be Named and Sen. Mikulski


Sen Mikulski, privately meeting with Sen Who Shall Not Be Named.
17 posted on 11/05/2005 12:12:07 PM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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President Bush should "come clean" about any White House officials involved in the leak ...

Answer...None. There was no leak.

18 posted on 11/05/2005 12:12:28 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - from Milton's 'Paradise Lost ')
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Mikulski is a lardass. It's time the 'RATS "come clean" about Leahy and Kerry's leaks of CIA people's names and her toadies in the Liberal MSM "come clean" about who leaked the garbage about the "secret" CIA detainee camps. HYPOCRITE!!!


22 posted on 11/05/2005 12:14:20 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (We Gave Peace A Chance. It Didn't Work Out. Search keyword: 09-11-01.)
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Barbara, you come out of the closet first.


24 posted on 11/05/2005 12:14:59 PM PST by popdonnelly
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This is an update on AJ's site and a MUST READ. Let them keep calling for who outted Val. Read below...

http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/887

Wilson Roundup, 11/05/05
Wow, things are moving fast as more and more people engage in the Plame-Wilson questions. The spotlight is definitely moving from the WH to the CIA. The recent leak about CIA holding centers around the world probably broke the patience of the American people. You cannot be harping on Libby for days on end for a non-outing of Plame (who sat in a desk watching data go by) and then turn around and out 100’s of agents trying to get life saving information from KNOWN 9-11 terrorists (Sheik-Mohamed). The media and CIA have crossed the line from debate to undermining and sabotaging our self defenses. They have also put at risk all our alliances with countries willing to hold these extremely dangerous prisoners.

Now we will finally see an investigation into the CIA war on the US - and the dems will not be able to hold it back. Their call to look into exaggerated and hyped intelligence will include the exaggeration, hype and lies of Joe Wilson. And others. The media will also be called to task - by the American people. Because America, outside the beltway, sees these players as all one big mess of partisanship. There is no differentiating between media partisans, congressional partisans, etc. All we know is there is a big, ugly, useless war in DC and it needs to be ended now. Americans do not suffer fools well.

It is time to clean house on our bought and sold media and politicians and power broker bureaucrats and financiers. Americans can topple these little empires in the blink of a few elections.

And to that end we need to continue to see the focus shift from Libby to the Wilsons and other CIA operatives out fighting us in our efforts in Iraq.

Powerline has some very powerful posts out today. One is on comments by Bill Bennett and the outrage at the duplicity of the media. The outing of hundreds of CIA agents should now be the focus of Congress.

Powerline also has a link to this Stephen Hayes article on the bumbling democrats’ move to look at pre-war intelligence.

But several Senate Democrats–led by Intelligence Committee members Carl Levin, Richard Durbin, and Vice Chairman Jay Rockefeller–were undeterred. Despite signing on to the findings of the exhaustive report, they pressed for a second report analyzing how the Bush administration had misused intelligence. In so doing, the Democrats trumpeted the presumed results of the investigation even as they pressed for its conclusion.

Their interest in using the forthcoming report as a political tool was laid bare when Senator Carl Levin released his own “study” of prewar claims on October 21, 2004–two weeks before the presidential election. Levin had grown increasingly frustrated that Phase II of the Senate report would not be completed in time for the election. So he decided to go public with his “findings.” If the timing of the report’s release suggests Levin’s motivations were political, its contents remove any doubt. The 45-page study is riddled with inaccuracies. Quotations are taken out of context. Bush administration claims are misrepresented. Even names and dates are wrong.

I sense a bit of Braer Rabbit in the WH and Republican resistance. The tar in this scandal is wide open, thanks to the CIA leaking the terrorist prisoner camp operation. Powerline’s observations on the democrat overt operation on Bush, using Michael Barone as a launching point, are here.

This article in The American Thinker is by someone from the Reagan era of the CIA (is this some of the CIA patriots coming out of the woodwork long predicted by Mac Ranger?). It is an excellent juxtaposition between the right way to do things and the Wilsons’ way of doing things.

Perhaps an outline of how we did things at the CIA during the Reagan Administration will help to illustrate just how appalling the agency’s handling of Mr. Cheney’s query really was:

It’s quite rare for a Cabinet member to actually ask for intelligence – and even more rare for the Vice President or the President to ask – so when they do it’s a very big deal. President Reagan’s great Director of Central Intelligence, William J. Casey, made clear to all of us that when a top-level official personally asked the CIA to check into something, he was to be notified immediately. No matter what else was going on that day that demanded Casey’s total attention – a revolution in Asia, a covert action in Eastern Europe, another of Bob Woodward’s fantasies in The Washington Post—a direct query from any of the four or five top Administration officials took precedence over everything else. After all, they were our primary customers.

Did this happen here? No - just the opposite. The Wilson trip had lots of characteristics of being hidden from the higher ups - while the visible work by the US embassy in Niger was used for cover.

Sometimes we could rely wholly on our own people to do whatever research, or snooping, had to be done. Other times, we needed help from people who didn’t work for the CIA – or even for the US government – but who for whatever reason had the access necessary to help get the information we sought. This would include former government officials, academic experts, business executives, scientists and people from the world of politics both here in the US and overseas. Bill Casey was a great CIA director for many reasons, not the least of which was his Rolodex. It was the size of a Ferris wheel. Casey seemed to know everyone on earth who had ever accomplished anything, and he had a genius for flipping through his Rolodex and plucking out the one individual in the entire world capable of helping us find out whatever we needed to know – and then talking that man or woman into lending a hand.

It was always done quietly – if a meeting was necessary, we held it away from the office—and with no paper trail whatever.

Again, was this Wilson’s trip set up this way? In some ways yes - in one way no. Wilson met all the key intel community leads at an introductory meeting set up by Val before he went.

Of course you don’t know who they are because they never, ever talked about what they did, not even to their friends and colleagues—never gave a speech about it, and never published op-ed essays about it even if they thought the resulting Reagan policies were wrong-headed. They understood that in taking on an assignment for the CIA – however brief, however informal – they were expected to keep their mouths shut.

You folks have more than a few IQ points to rub together - I won’t insult you by reading or interpreting this one.

When we had our answer to the top official’s query – whether it took us an hour or a month – that answer went to Casey himself, who would review it personally to be sure it was an adequate response. Because the President, the Vice President, and the Secretaries of State and Defense were the CIA’s primary customers, Casey considered it his personal responsibility to oversee the agency’s responses to their queries.

I actually believe the overall reporting did go this route. We know the Wilson involvement was not passed along and Tenet was not aware there was a hidden investigation in parallel to the ones being done by the Ambassador and an ex-General. This leads me to think the Wilsons were covering up something.

This article ends with two questions, one of which is answered quite well at Powerline.

A reader alerted me this was coming out - and here it is! The latest nominee to the growing list of people who knew Valerie Plame worked at the CIA. At the end of this post I started the list of who knew (and I am wondering why I didn’t know since so many others did). We can now add a General and his wife to the list since Joe Wilson outed Valerie himself in the FOXNews studios

Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely told WorldNetDaily that Wilson mentioned Plame’s status as a CIA operative in at least three, possibly five, separate conversations in 2002 in the Fox News Channel’s “green room” in Washington, D.C., as they waited to appear on air as analysts.

Vallely said, citing CIA colleagues, that in addition to his conversations with Wilson, the ambassador was proud to introduce Plame at cocktail parties and other social events around Washington as his CIA wife.

“That was pretty common knowledge,” he said. “She’s been out there on the Washington scene many years.”

Fitzgerald - are you paying attention to this? BTW, I hate to say ‘I told you so’ - but I grew up in McLean VA right outside the front gate of Langley. This was not hard to predict in June. And before I started this blog I predicted it in 2003 as the story broke.

Anyway, back to real important stuff, like the source of the Niger Forgeries. Mac Ranger has expounded on my view that Martino makes no sense as the source of the forgeries. And he points to other evidence on the subject. From a Seymour Hersh story

Another explanation was provided by a former senior C.I.A. officer. He had begun talking to me about the Niger papers in March, when I first wrote about the forgery, and said, “Somebody deliberately let something false get in there.” He became more forthcoming in subsequent months, eventually saying that a small group of disgruntled retired C.I.A. clandestine operators had banded together in the late summer of last year (2002) and drafted the fraudulent documents themselves.

“The agency guys were so pissed at Cheney,” the former officer said. “They said, ‘O.K, we’re going to put the bite on these guys.’ ” My source said that he was first told of the fabrication late last year, at one of the many holiday gatherings in the Washington area of past and present C.I.A. officials. “Everyone was bragging about it—‘Here’s what we did. It was cool, cool, cool.’ ” These retirees, he said, had superb contacts among current officers in the agency and were informed in detail of the sismi intelligence.

This points to the VIPS nuts like Larry Johnson, etc. Now this came out 10/20/03. And if true then that would mean the niger forgeries could not date back to 2000. Obviously we have some time lines to resolve. But it is interesting that only 8 months after they became known as forgeries, this kind of rumor was spreading around. Mac points us to Laura Rozen and some well sourced information on the documents’ origins:

Just confirmed with a former US intelligence official who was briefed on it at the time that a surprising claim in this Washington Post story tonight is indeed true: that Rocco Martino was a walk-in to the US embassy Rome and tried to sell the Niger forgeries to them, months before the Italian reporter Elisabetta Burba brought them to the embassy at the direction of her editor at her Berlusconi-owned magazine. (My source thought he remembered Martino’s walk in occurring in the early spring of 2002, but wasn’t positive). The CIA Rome station chief reportedly threw Martino - and the forgeries - out.

Doing some checking and we learn the forgeries may have had elements of the Rome break in - circa 2001

The letterheads and official seals that appeared to authenticate the documents apparently came from a burglary at the Niger Embassy in Rome in 2001.

Since the documents are a combination of real and fake documents, and the linkage to the 2001 break in is not tight, we still have little evidence of when the documents were created.

Back to Mac for some more answers:

So the question, who is would be the most likely person to have some old Nigerian docs laying around in a drawer or briefcase, maybe some that they picked up during previous trips to the region.

“Now the question: What was Wilson doing in Niger in 1999? That is besides the “Uranium issues”. I wonder though, Did Joe happen to bring back, oh.. any Nigerian “letterhead” with him from his trip to Niger in 1999? Would have been real convenient if he did.

Very. One thing to remember about forgeries - they can tell a lot about the forger and where the documents have been. Forensic science is quite powerful these days.

Have a great day folks.

Posted by AJStrata on Saturday, November 5th, 2005 at 2:36 pm.


Now this update:

Wilson Did Out Brewster-Jennings
What is it with Joe Wilson outing his wife? We have the breaking news that he was telling anyone and everyone at FoxNews about his CIA wife (which is why John Gibson made the same comments one night last week). We kniow he told the Kerry campaign and we know he wrote this big Op-Ed article that put everyone on the planet onto his wife’s trail. One thing I had paid much attention to was the outing of Brewster & Jennings - Valerie’s cover company.

Here is the record of the campaign contribution tothe Gore campaign. What caught my eye was the value of contributions. Joe and Val are gratefully listed side by side for this 1999 period (well before the prime election period and before Gore was formally selected as the nominee). Joe and Val both are down for $1000. But Joe was down for $2000 for “Amount of Each Receipt This Year” followed by “Reattribution Below”. The initial payment was on 3/26/99. Valerie’s donation was on 4/22/99 and is identified as a “Reattribution”.

This probably means Joe came back later and allocated half his initial campaign donation to his wife - and he is probably the one that listed Brewster and Jennings has her place of work. So it was Joe who exposed his wife’s cover - not Novak or anyone else! Is this guy a clutz or what?

Though not on subject entirely, I like to see what ex-CIA or Intel folks think of this mess - and Ed Morrissey as a post from Vox Taciturn worth reading.

UPDATE:

http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/888

This article in the Boston Globe describes what a poor CIA cover Brewsyer and Jennings was

Former intelligence officials confirmed Plame’s cover was an invention and that she used other false identities and affiliations when working overseas. “All it was was a telephone and a post office box,” said one former intelligence official who asked not to be identified. “When she was abroad she had a more viable cover.”

That’s a good thing, considering how little work seems to have gone in to establishing the company’s presence in Boston, intelligence observers said. While the renovated building houses legal and investment firms, current and former building managers said they’ve never heard of Brewster Jennings. Nor did the firm file the state and local records expected of most businesses.

Both factors would have aroused the suspicions of anyone who tried to check up on Brewster Jennings, said David Armstrong, an Andover researcher for the Public Education Center, a liberal Washington think tank.

At the least, a dummy company ought to create the appearance of activity, with an office and a valid mailing address, he said. “A cover that falls apart on first inspection isn’t very good. What you want is a cover that actually holds up . . . and this one certainly doesn’t.”

Well, if it walks, talks and smell like something else - it must be. I suspect this was not a real CIA cover operation. Just like Wilson’s Niger trips were not real CIA investigations, but simply some shadow activity running under a real activity. The question is, how much visibility did CIA upper levels have into this?


25 posted on 11/05/2005 12:15:48 PM PST by Thumbellina (As I recall, Kerry referred to terrorism as "overrated".)
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Come clean about what, actually carrying out Clinton's 1998 Regime Change policy that the Dems all cheered and echoed?

I'm getting really tired of this DNC mantra. Is the White House ever going to ever throw it back at them?

26 posted on 11/05/2005 12:15:51 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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And WaPo won't touch her on the MD4Bush scandal. Maybe SHE needs to come clean!

Reporter Ordered To Leave Out (D) Sen. Mikulski "Outing" By Dem Operative MD4BUSH

27 posted on 11/05/2005 12:17:32 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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Phone the woman and tell her to read the truth about Joe Wilson and the CIA on the Internet - Bush has nothing to come clean about but I think Patrick Fitzgerald, ex-CIA chief George Tenant and Joe Wilson do.

The Honorable Barbara A. Mikulski
(202) 224-4654

31 posted on 11/05/2005 12:36:22 PM PST by yoe
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In other words .. the "prosecutor's prosecutor" didn't do the job they were expecting .. and now this idiot woman wants the President to admit to things that ARE NOT TRUE.

Good job democrats .. you're look more like the idiot DEMOCRAT UNDERGROUND everyday.


32 posted on 11/05/2005 12:36:38 PM PST by CyberAnt (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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Leaks regarding the secret CIA prisons. Where's the outrage?


34 posted on 11/05/2005 12:49:23 PM PST by Smartaleck
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News Flash from heartland America...

Wilson lied!

35 posted on 11/05/2005 12:59:12 PM PST by TigersEye ('I am' is the meditation. Meditation is the 'I am.' All other 'I's and meditations are fabrications.)
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