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Why an Intifada in France? (fascinating insight by a Frenchman in North Africa)
National Review Online--the Corner ^ | November 5, 2005 | John Derbyshire

Posted on 11/05/2005 10:40:53 AM PST by born in the Bronx

WHY AN INTIFADA IN FRANCE? [John Derbyshire] An acquaintance of mine -- French, currently resident in North Africa -- sent a long post about the French riots to an email group I belong to. It is a fascinating post, but much too long to paste here. I did think, though, that the following passage would interest NRO readers, so with his permission, I pass it on.

It is from a passage headed: "Why an Intifada in France?" It is among a long list of reasons given as answers to the question.

"The Iraq war: as I had noticed very strongly in Tunisia a little more than 2 years ago, the opposition of France to intervention in Iraq has been perceived as a sign of weakness, and French are since considered as Dhimmis. The change of attitude from Arabs against French has been dramatic: now I know problems of security in Tunisia, and even in the French planes to go and come from there, and in Nice (French Riviera) Airport! This opposition, probably motivated by the money earned in Oil For Terror program and by threats from Saudi Arabia and Iran, has marked the end of France as a Western country (whatever one thinks about the Iraq war per se!)." Posted at 12:03 PM


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: derbyshire; france; iraq; parisriots; riots
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1 posted on 11/05/2005 10:40:54 AM PST by born in the Bronx
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To: born in the Bronx
Jihad!



The French Intifadah has begun!!! Allahu Akhbar!

Adieu Paris! Au revoir la France!

2 posted on 11/05/2005 10:42:32 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: born in the Bronx

Simple. The Islamofascists target those that they know to be weak and not willing to fight.

Clinton taught them well.


3 posted on 11/05/2005 10:43:41 AM PST by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: born in the Bronx

http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/004795.php


4 posted on 11/05/2005 10:46:53 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: born in the Bronx
The French strategy was the same in WWII and Vietnam. It is reasonable for Muslims to expect the same in this Interfada.

Appeasement

Negotiation

Concessions

Surrender
5 posted on 11/05/2005 10:48:03 AM PST by cgbg (Racism is identifying, quantifying, and determining social policy by race.)
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To: Bon mots

6 posted on 11/05/2005 10:49:01 AM PST by msnimje ("People for the American Way have issued a Fatwah against Alito" --- John Cornyn)
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To: born in the Bronx
"...the opposition of France to intervention in Iraq has been perceived as a sign of weakness,"

Well, perhaps but Britain joined us and they were hit. I really think the raghead savages are non discriminatory to a great extent and will attack any country they perceive to have by and large an anti war population.

7 posted on 11/05/2005 10:50:24 AM PST by Eagles Talon IV (Still waiting for the)
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To: born in the Bronx

... so shall ye reap.


8 posted on 11/05/2005 10:52:32 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: cgbg

I don't think you people know much about Europe or spend much time there. Even though the French and the Germans did not back the war in Iraq, if there were ever a group of people capable of solving their issues with Muslims it is them.

These guys have a long history of frankly putting minority populations in their place. To be frank, the Arabs weild a lot less power in European politics than they do here in the States.

For instance, you can't were any head scarves or religious symbols in public buildings in France. If you tried to do that here people would scream free speech abuse etc. These riots are basically the Arabs killing other Arabs and that is why this is going on so long.

If this happend in downtown Paris, it would take the Gendarmes 30 minutes to kill them all and deport the rest. Mark my words, they are letting themselves kill each other - then they'll deport the rest. ALready its damn near impossible for Arabs to come into the countries whereas here they just need to walk across the Mexican border ... at least that was the case until the MinuteMen!


9 posted on 11/05/2005 10:54:27 AM PST by EternalPatriot (Have we lost our saltiness?)
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To: born in the Bronx

Thanks for post but I can't find the article at the link. Any suggestions? I might have missed it but I've looked and looked.


10 posted on 11/05/2005 10:56:55 AM PST by Kay
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To: cgbg

Britain will not fall to this Islamic vileness.

Yes, we are legally barred from owning firearms. But, like our Australian cousins, there are plenty of decent people in the UK who do have them and know how to use them.

I will be chuckling, regardless, when the local Ali or Mohammed trys it on and gets my 4-iron embedded in his skull.


11 posted on 11/05/2005 10:57:00 AM PST by Royal Sutton Coldfield
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To: born in the Bronx
Well I wish John had shared a little more of his 'letter'. . (!)

. . .and perhaps Rush is on the same e-mail list; at least he has offered the same conclusion as to the weakness of France that draws blood to the water - so to speak.

Agree totally. . .

Appeasement is only for the weak; if not weakest. . .and if you cannot look this enemy in the eye or try, but blink before they do; it's over.

12 posted on 11/05/2005 10:59:11 AM PST by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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You may be correct, but the reaction from the French politicians to date have not been very convincing.

If they are not allowed to publicly defend their society and its values it is hard to see how they can be expected to motivate the public to support the harsh measures that will clearly be needed to overcome this menace on a long term basis.

The Muslims see weakness. We will see if they have miscalculated.
13 posted on 11/05/2005 11:00:24 AM PST by cgbg (Racism is identifying, quantifying, and determining social policy by race.)
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To: EternalPatriot

Very interesting appraisal of the situation. I must say that while I hope you are right, I believe you are in fact wrong. France is dying and nothing will stop it. It is being devoured from within by a parasite that will overwhelm the host over the next 30 years.


14 posted on 11/05/2005 11:01:52 AM PST by US admirer
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To: Howie66
"Simple. The Islamofascists target those that they know to be weak and not willing to fight. Clinton taught them well."

Didn't he though. . .cannot understand what part of the 'weakest link' do these Libs not understand.

15 posted on 11/05/2005 11:02:14 AM PST by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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To: EternalPatriot
EternalPatriot Since Oct 30, 2005

Welcome to FreeRepublic E.

So what's the body count in "Africans" around Paris?

16 posted on 11/05/2005 11:03:16 AM PST by woofer
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To: born in the Bronx

This is what muslims do. Sorry to say this, but this is how they operate. They move into a country in droves. Then they complain that they are discriminated against and that they are persecuted; so they have a "right" to fight.

Then, of course they start a "civil war" in the host country, to divide and weaken their foe.

Watch for this to happen in Canada next. Then, Michigan, here in the USA.


17 posted on 11/05/2005 11:03:21 AM PST by tuckrdout (The good man wins his case by careful argument; the evil-minded only wants to fight. Prov. 13:2)
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Chirac is desperatly trying to raise Nevil Chamberlin from the dead in order to negotiate a french land for peace deal. (they only need room to grow)


18 posted on 11/05/2005 11:05:46 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: born in the Bronx
the end of France as a Western country

Of course this is the goal of the Islamofacists, but I don't see it happening. France is in the process of waking up right now as they watch their cities being torched by their Muslim 'guests'. I predict they will elect new leadership and fight back. They outnumber the enemy ten to one and there are no caves to hide in.

19 posted on 11/05/2005 11:06:52 AM PST by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: born in the Bronx

I enjoyed this little commentary from the Belmont blogsite... fun with Nietzsche... there's some good stuff at this site - http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/

Lex



"The Muslim uprising of the last week is a challenge to the half century of policy that has brought France to this point. Polices which deprecated European culture, frowned on a national identity, lowered the birthrate, created a welfare state, imported 'guest workers', promoted mindless multiculturalism and relied on 'international' treaties for protection -- all articles of Leftist faith -- are now facing the judgment of history; and worse, the verdict of Islam. It would be supremely ironical if the European Left, the 'vanguard of history', required for its future survival the very things it had set out to destroy." -- money quote





Commentary
In 1882, Friedrich Nietzsche's Parable of the Madman predicted that European civilization was on the threshold of absolute freedom and power, unshackled by any notion of God, who was not only dead, but moldering. And if any worshippers yet remained it was because they had not yet heard the great news.

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.

"How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whoever is born after us---for the sake of this deed he will belong to a higher history than all history hitherto."

Here the madman fell silent and looked again at his listeners; and they, too, were silent and stared at him in astonishment. At last he threw his lantern on the ground, and it broke into pieces and went out. "I have come too early," he said then; "my time is not yet. This tremendous event is still on its way, still wandering; it has not yet reached the ears of men. Lightning and thunder require time; the light of the stars requires time; deeds, though done, still require time to be seen and heard. This deed is still more distant from them than most distant stars---and yet they have done it themselves.

At the age of 45, Nietzsche suffered a mental breakdown from undetermined causes, embracing a horse among other things and asking it to sing. Yet even so, he would have been surprised to learn that in barely a century, the European civilization he believed to be on the brink of "a higher history than all history hitherto" -- would have collapsed upon itself, eviscerated by two world wars and terminal demographics; that churches, now called mosques, would be filled with worshippers from Indonesia, North Africa and the Middle East.

If the Madman came to 21st century Paris, he might announce the death of other gods, alike without success. He would have come too early, the harbinger of an event that had not yet reached the ears of men. The tidings he would bring would be unfamiliar, "and yet they have done it themselves".


20 posted on 11/05/2005 11:09:37 AM PST by Lexington Green (''America has the watches. We have the time.'' -- Al-Zawahiri)
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