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To: traviskicks
I don't think its true that H-1B visas have 'shrunk the American market in software programers'.

No, just the market for Amercian software programmers.

For our national security we need the best programmers in the world coming here.

We had the best programmers in the world. A lot of them are selling used cars and wearing Home Depot aprons thanks to H-1Bs.

Yes, give them security clearences in the most careful way possible.

Wouldn't it just be easier to send the programming work to India or China? Business is and they claim to be saving a bundle. Why shouldn't government?

28 posted on 11/05/2005 11:14:58 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Wouldn't it just be easier to send the programming work to India or China? Business is and they claim to be saving a bundle. Why shouldn't government?

This is exactly what is happening. I see it right now at work. I work for a big, well known by size and color "American Icon" company. I've seen hyper-advanced projects done for the most sensitive areas of U.S. Government get shipped offshore because for some inexplicable reason, the project wasn't given a "controlled" designation (like "ITAR" or "Classified").

All it takes is for a project to somehow skip proper classification, and suddenly a huge technology transfer goes out to our countries enemies. It makes me sick.

31 posted on 11/05/2005 11:31:23 AM PST by Yossarian
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To: Non-Sequitur

"We had the best programmers in the world. A lot of them are selling used cars and wearing Home Depot aprons thanks to H-1Bs."

I don't believe this to be true.

"Wouldn't it just be easier to send the programming work to India or China? Business is and they claim to be saving a bundle. Why shouldn't government?"

This is my point. If we restrict the best and brightest from coming here then companies will just go there. By opposing increasing H-1B Visas you are increasing outsourcing. I don't think it is prudent to outsource top secret defense deprartment programing jobs. Which is why we must bring the best programmers here.


32 posted on 11/05/2005 11:52:36 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/janicerogersbrown.htm)
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