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Is the World Ready for German Victimhood?
Spiegel ^ | November 4, 2005 | Charles Hawley

Posted on 11/04/2005 8:52:02 AM PST by lizol

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1 posted on 11/04/2005 8:52:03 AM PST by lizol
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Germany and Poland may soon find themselves on a collision course over precisely this issue.

In the next war my money's on the Poles.

2 posted on 11/04/2005 8:54:57 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: lizol
Is the World Ready for German Victimhood?

Naaaaah.

3 posted on 11/04/2005 8:56:56 AM PST by martin_fierro ("Own Nothing, Have Everything" -- YEAH, RIGHT)
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To: lizol

As soon as Germany resuscitates the millions of Polish citizens it murdered, the Poles should give all the property back.


4 posted on 11/04/2005 8:57:00 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: lizol

I'd be willing to make this trade: We get to stuff six million Germans into ovens and they get to whine about it for the next three generations. Deal?


5 posted on 11/04/2005 8:58:57 AM PST by thoughtomator (Alito Akbar)
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To: wideawake

"We were only following orders"?

Nice try.


6 posted on 11/04/2005 8:59:25 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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7 posted on 11/04/2005 9:01:43 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: lizol

It's the agitations of the Volksdeutsche in western Czechoslovakia and Poland which was the pre-text for the whole war. I didn't hear those Germans complaining when the slave labor was coming in from eastern Europe. Payback's a bitch.


8 posted on 11/04/2005 9:02:00 AM PST by Altair333 (Stop illegal immigration: George Allen in 2008)
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My problem is not that there was too much suffering among German citizens during and after the war- it's that there wasn't enough. I wish we'd given the Dresden treatment to a bunch more cities and towns.

This is a nation whose population was quite comfortable with the notion that they had the right to march into whatever country they pleased, murder women and children by the millions, and squeeze whatever labor (and gold teeth) they could out of them before they died. Dresden was too good for such people.


9 posted on 11/04/2005 9:05:05 AM PST by Altair333 (Stop illegal immigration: George Allen in 2008)
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bump


10 posted on 11/04/2005 9:05:38 AM PST by kimosabe31
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Ready for German victimhood? Nope. And I'm of German ancestry.


11 posted on 11/04/2005 9:12:09 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Hurl the invective!)
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They came from regions as far away as present-day Kaliningrad and Lithuania, but mostly from areas now belonging to Poland and the Czech Republic --

Actual Kaliningrad was Königsberg in what was Prussia and that area is now a noncontiguous part of Russia

12 posted on 11/04/2005 9:13:03 AM PST by tophat9000 ("Space for rent")
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The germans occupied parts of Poland after expelling Poles from their homes to expand German territory.

If there are too many Germans without places to live, maybe they should kull the herd with German efficiency.


13 posted on 11/04/2005 9:16:42 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: lizol

Another reminder why my ancestors left Europe and never looked back.


14 posted on 11/04/2005 9:29:05 AM PST by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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In the next war my money's on the Poles.

They would have been the odds-on favorites in the early 1930s as well.

15 posted on 11/04/2005 9:30:16 AM PST by PAR35
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Tough sale.


16 posted on 11/04/2005 9:31:07 AM PST by dighton
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Heah Franz, PUT SOME ICE ON IT! After raping my paternal ancestors land for hundreds of years, you're lucky the Poles don't push you back to the Rhine!

I could see it now: Pierogi and Sywiech beer in Berlin, Paczki replacing streudel in the cafes of Frankfurt.

17 posted on 11/04/2005 9:32:37 AM PST by Clemenza (In League with the Freemasons, The Bilderbergers, and the Learned Elders of Zion)
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To: lizol

As an aside, I remember Pat Buchanan writing an article on how the Germans were "victimized" due to these "land transfers."


18 posted on 11/04/2005 9:33:45 AM PST by Clemenza (In League with the Freemasons, The Bilderbergers, and the Learned Elders of Zion)
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To: All

My father became a seabee towards the end of the war...

One of his jobs was to assist in the tearing down and cleaning up of a "relocation camp" the Germans had built in Poland.

The US Armed Forces forced the affluent German citizens who lived in the surrounding community to assist in the removal of bodies.

No one would have ever convinced him that the majority of German people were unaware of what was going on, or were the least bit innocent.

On the other hand, after the war, he accepted Germans (and Japanese, as well) as fellow Americans.


19 posted on 11/04/2005 9:57:13 AM PST by baltodog (R.I.P. Balto: 2001(?) - 2005)
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The expulsion of ethnic Germans from the east was an injustice, as was the expulsion of Poles from the lands taken by the Soviets from Poland during World War II. The fact that Germany committed many war crimes does not mean that all Germans are war criminals, or should be treated as such.


20 posted on 11/04/2005 10:02:14 AM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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