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Nokia Linux-based web tablet on sale at last
The Register ^ | Friday 4th November 2005 11:56 GMT | Dinesh C Sharma

Posted on 11/04/2005 6:15:02 AM PST by PissAndVinegar

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To: Tunehead54

Mrs. F & I were wondering that last night. The specs make no mention of it.

I also wonder what it'll cost when it is available for sale. $pendy, I bet.


21 posted on 11/05/2005 12:17:46 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Bush2000
Recall a couple years back when you let me know about the forthcoming Compact .Net framework? I coded the desktop displays for the locomotive engineers within the constraints of the Compact .Net framework. Last year I purchased an HP5555 and ported that whole desktop application to run on the HP5555 by only changing the display geometry to fit the smaller screen. This year I have replaced my cell phone with a Samsung sch-i730. The application on the HP5555 will move to my smart phone and will also be available to the locomotive engineers. The pocket device will permit them to set the handbrakes, operate angle cock valves, open couplers, monitor bearing temperatures and get maintainance alerts for any railcar equipped with the sensor package. The smart phone angle adds 1XEV-DO/1XRTT network connectivity so the engineer and car owners can track car locations and status via the website.

My last division manager called me up a couple nights ago. He wants to resurrect the door to door navigation that I built in 2003. This time I'm going for MapPoint on the backend and putting the action on the smart phone. Last time the PDA was just GPS/display/voice. This time it can have a live network connection.

What do my comments have to do with the article? Nokia has barely caught up to the HP5555. Late to the party. Linux doesn't have anything nearly as good and portable as the Compact .Net framework. My Samsung sch-i730 has 802.11b WiFi, Bluetooth, 1XEV-DO and MS2003 Mobile OS. The 1 GB SD card carts my MP3 music. It has Word and Excel onboard, so my project manager can send me appropriate docs. The Internet Explorer is bunches better than the "Blazer" offered on the Treo 650. E-mail via SMTP/POP3 using the Verizon Wireless servers. Full motion video over the net too. It does have a couple lame aspects that could be fixed. Notably, the lack of mapping of custom ringtones to a given caller id. The Windows Media Player needs to be upgraded to play iPod AAC format so I can use my iTunes library on the phone or iPod.

22 posted on 11/05/2005 12:52:47 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: martin_fierro
It was not an idle question so I appreciate you checking.

Here's what I'm going to have to replace - originally made by Franklin - its only two credit cards thick, holds 5000 + names, apptmts, etc. but is no longer available. Also I found a great program called OsaSynch that synchs Outlook between my laptop and desktop. Unfortunately it seems to mess up the RexPro synch ... sigh.


Oh well, might as well quit smoking now as no Organizer is going to fit in my shirt pocket with a pack of smokes and pen. Double sigh. ;-)


23 posted on 11/05/2005 2:15:06 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: PissAndVinegar

So where's the phone? There's plenty of other devices that do what this does, and more. The fact it was delayed means it's even further behind than orginally planned.


24 posted on 11/05/2005 2:33:08 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Myrddin

Thanks for your comments! Interesting stuff, indeed!


25 posted on 11/05/2005 4:07:16 PM PST by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: DesertSapper

Which is why you are using Linux even as we type--FR runs on Linux. If it were running on Windows, this site would be down daily.


26 posted on 11/05/2005 4:10:45 PM PST by twntaipan (Tagline space for sale or rent.)
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To: Myrddin
The Windows Media Player needs to be upgraded to play iPod AAC format so I can use my iTunes library on the phone or iPod.

I don't expect that to happen, but I don't know why anyone would really want an iPod or limited Linux device like this when the MS and Palm smartphones offer a whole lot more in the same basic size. You can watch TV, run terminal server, stream audio/video from the web or even your own home, plus of course the cell phone. Anything less, is uncivilized!

27 posted on 11/05/2005 5:10:07 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
I still carry my Palm III purchased in May 1998. When Verizon offered $100 off on the "new every two", I tried a Treo 650. I had hoped to move all my Palm III databases to the Treo (contacts, notes, calendars, todo lists) and get a nifty phone with internet connectivity. After 12 days of continuous crashes I was very frustrated. It wasn't a good Palm Pilot replacement and wasn't a dependable phone. The Samsung sch-i730 set me back another $200, didn't have a camera and doesn't map caller id to a distinct ringtone. Those "deficiencies" aside, it is stable and dependable. The wireless connectivity works better than the Treo because it has next generation 1XEV-DO connectivity in addition to the 1XRTT. I already own the development tools to write software for it as well. Palm is going to put the MS operating system on the Treo 650 hardware soon. I hope that solves their stability/functionality problems. The hardware is very well done. I especially liked to way the battery was implemented and the 320X320 color display was very good. The camera was functional, but doesn't really come close to my Sony DSC-F717.

I did buy an iPod Shuffle in 512MB version. It holds just enough music to keep me entertained on my frequent cross country flights. That is also the only time I have time to enjoy it. It is a pretty good fit for a very narrow purpose. My wife has a 40 GB iPod. It is loaded with over 2800 of her favorite songs. She takes it to work for background music while dispatching at the police department. Her boss doesn't permit bringing anything else in the office to fill "dead time".

28 posted on 11/05/2005 9:16:23 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
I still carry my Palm III purchased in May 1998.

Sad! The Treo's are excellent hardware, I too had the initial O/S instability problems but ironed them out with 2 third party products: Uninstall Manager and BackupMan. Now it's doing a great job, especially as a phone which is typically weak on PDA models. I'm even using a hacked version of Web Pro from the Treo 600 instead of Blazer, which works a lot better. I'm considering the new 700W Treo, with MS Pocket O/S, but more likely the new PPC-6700 if I end up adding a MS device which has EV-DO and 802.11b. I already have a Blackberry for work, which I may upgrade to the EDGE version when it comes out next month, and another Java flipphone that is still my primary device due to the small size and great features, except for the WAP browser.

The Treo 650 or 700W will probably become my "small" take everywhere phone and I'll get the PPC-6700 or other landscape type phone like the upcoming Apache to use when I need to seriously use terminal server or MS apps. I think I told you have a few NEC Handheld PC's that I run TS on now around the house, but it doesn't have all the multimedia features of these new phones and doesn't work outside the wifi range. I'm sure I'll keep upgrading each time a new technology converges into a new generation, right now my favorite time killer is watching CNBC stock reports live via MobilTV on my phones, made a killing here this last quarter. MobiTV isn't available on MS mobilephones but I've heard about a service available on some models called "smartvideo" that carries CNBC as well, ever heard of it? That's probably the main thing I'm waiting to find out about before I invest into the MS phones, it's the killer app of the day to my way of thinking.

29 posted on 11/05/2005 9:54:42 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
I've visited a website with live video streamed to my 1XEV-DO phone. It works pretty well. Just demos right now. What I really want to have on the phone is a fully functional Java applet capability. My company uses a timecard system based on Java applets. If my phone could get the job done, I could travel more places without dragging the laptop. My current assignment is totally dependent on the laptop as a mobile development platform, so I wouldn't benefit much.

Last week we needed a printer pretty bad in the field. Someone whipped out an HP InkJet, but no driver. I was able to go to the HP support site, download the driver to the SD card in my phone, then move it to the laptop that was hosting the printer. We had no other connectivity for the project at the time. It was pretty useful that time.

30 posted on 11/05/2005 10:04:32 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Roger that on the laptop, my current one has the 17" screen and it normally doesn't leave the house. The Treo has a Java engine from IBM available for running local apps, along with 3rd party TS (MobileTS) and MS office compatible (MobiSystems Office) apps so it seemed to give me the most flexibility which is why I bought it, althought that was of course an additional expense. The main thing it's lacking is the ability to steam Windows Media sites natively, which I'm so far doing without. That and a bigger screen, since I'm spending so much time staring at it.

If you have a terminal server host somewhere you should be able to login with your Samsung and run Java apps through the full IE client within the remote session. You could even use a Windows XP client for it if you turned on Remote Desktop and opened a hole in your firewall for your incoming requests. Good luck, GE out.


31 posted on 11/05/2005 10:42:12 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Bush2000
Dang, that thing is butt-ugly.

It's got less style sense than my old, clunky, but trustworthy, 2110.


32 posted on 11/07/2005 8:55:02 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
You can watch TV, run terminal server, stream audio/video from the web or even your own home, plus of course the cell phone. Anything less, is uncivilized!

Some of us prefer different devices for different tasks. I had a Palm, I had a nice cell phone. Then I got a Palm/cell combo and it doesn't do either as well as the original.

33 posted on 11/07/2005 8:57:31 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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34 posted on 11/13/2005 5:52:18 AM PST by toadthesecond
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