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somehow commentary of this nature will not be appearing soon in the ny slimes, on the contrary its "W"'s fault that they are wilding in France.
1 posted on 11/04/2005 5:36:06 AM PST by JohnLongIsland
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President Mitterrand, blamed the riots on the "conservative society" and said France is different because it "is the country where the level of social protection is the highest in the world."

Tell that to all the neglected old people who died in the summer heat a few summers ago.

40 posted on 11/04/2005 6:20:29 AM PST by Lizavetta
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I think Sharon should go to the UN and demand France raise a dialog and have a road map to peace.

He should also demand that France keep all roads in and out of the slums open so that the rioters can pass back and forth without being harassed.

Then he should demand that France give up the left bank to the Muslims so they can have a country of their own.

France should immediately turn over the church of Notre Dame to the Muzzies to use as a mosque, etc., etc., etc..

Sharon is probably laughing his ass off right now "Intifada this Chirac!"
43 posted on 11/04/2005 6:22:47 AM PST by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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I demand a timetable for withdrawal of French troops! They should never have attempted to quell the violnce! The rioters are merely freedom fighters. It's time for the French to leave! If the French troops hadn't responded as they did, none of this would be happening! Doesn't everyone know that Muslim is a religion of peace?
48 posted on 11/04/2005 6:29:06 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (Al-Jazeera is to the Iraqi War as CBS was to the Vietnam War.)
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Friday, November 04, 2005

LE POT III [Jonah Goldberg]
http://corner.nationalreview.com/05_10_30_corner-archive.asp#081835

From the September 21, 2005 LA Times:

Some French commentators have been dismayed by the tone of the media coverage concerning the destruction across the Atlantic. Some prominent people in the French press and politics, they believe, have eagerly turned the catastrophe into an all-purpose symbol of American ills, real or imagined.

"If the United States didn't exist, it would have to be invented so that elsewhere we can reassure ourselves, as if to better hide our own defects and incoherencies," warned a recent editorial in Le Figaro newspaper. "It's easy to ramble on about the decline of the American empire. Some even see the difficulties encountered by the U.S. as the work of a vengeful hand from the beyond.... Derision and demonizing are out of place."

The extensive coverage has tended to paint the picture of a superpower brought down by economic inequality, racial conflict and neglectful government. A recent Nouvel Observateur cover summed up this stark view: "America Stripped Naked: The cyclone reveals the wounds of the every-man-for-himself society."

Marianne, a left-leaning newsmagazine, declared: "The American giant folds beneath the weight of its failures and struggles to enforce an order that it wanted to impose on the world."

Marianne's take typified the profound disdain for President Bush in evidence here. A special issue titled "The Fall of the Pyromaniac Fireman" blamed Bush for a planetary flash fire of crises -- from Iraq to global warming -- that, in the magazine's view, discredit an entire free-market-driven, militaristic "Anglo-Saxon model" of governance.

In the newspaper Liberation, Gerard Dupuy accused the Bush administration of "contempt for victims who without a doubt were doubly at fault for being both poor and black." He concluded that the neoconservative "crusade," which was "already mired in the Mesopotamian marshes" of Iraq, had "foundered in the Louisiana bayou."



LE POT CONT'D [Jonah Goldberg]

From the September 1 roundup:

France's LIBERATION also feels this is a huge crisis for the US, and its society.

"This is a major crisis. The proof is that Bush - whom no tragedy nor international crisis seemed to be able to bother during his Texan holidays - went to Washington on the gallop," the left-leaning daily says.

"But the most striking thing, and the most revealing, is the brutal collapse of a rich and highly developed society," it comments. "The greatest power in the world knocked out by a punch from the gods," it says.

"The authorities," both state and federal, "are floundering, helpless", it goes on.

"And violence, which is never very far in a region where it is often forgotten that misery and social exclusion are endemic, is taking over in the form of pillaging.

"After the rules of the gods comes the law of the jungle," it concludes.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/05_10_30_corner-archive.asp#081833


LE POT MEET MSSR. KETTLE [Jonah Goldberg]
http://corner.nationalreview.com/05_10_30_corner-archive.asp#081832

From a September 8 BBC Newspaper summary of the French press:

"Katrina's devastation points the finger at Bush's system," announces LE MONDE's top headline.
Below the headline sits an large cartoon of George Bush watching wide-screen footage of black people floating dead in the water or screaming for help as an army patrol sails by on a boat, heavily armed. Bush is being briefed by his generals. Distraught and determined, he says: "But, what country is this? Is it far away? We absolutely have to do something!"

"The ravages of hurricane Katrina, which has swallowed up New Orleans...have provoked in the United States a debate on George Bush's model of government," says the French daily, noting that "for some...the page is turning on September 11, and this is perhaps the end of triumphant conservatism".

"Issues forgotten for years are back to the fore: poverty, the state's absence, latent racism," it goes on.

"After the 2001 attacks, the blacks had felt better integrated. Problems concerning society and poverty disappeared behind anti-terrorist concerns," it concludes.


49 posted on 11/04/2005 6:35:06 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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" How the times have changed. Muslims in Paris's suburbs are out shooting at police and firefighters, burning cars and buildings, and throwing rocks at commuter trains. "

I have been lectured at least one hundred times by Europeans about America's racist society and why we have riots here in the US of A.

The fact is this is not a social problem but a moral problem that won't get fixed with more welfare benefits.


55 posted on 11/04/2005 7:28:44 AM PST by BeAllYouCanBe (Animal Rights Activist Advisory: No French Person Was Injured In The Writing Of This Post)
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Damn! I hope they throw every last one of these punks back to Tunisia. This sickens me. I love France--unlike many people, I find the French very warm, except in the big cities, which are like any big city.

You know, there never was that big French immigration wave to the US--the French looked at the British and Germans and Irish leaving their teeming shores and said, "no thanks, we're good; think we'll hang out here..." LOL.

Shame to see it ruined because they lost their healthy nationalism to being politically correct. Ship 'em out, I say


58 posted on 11/04/2005 8:17:01 AM PST by ktvaughn
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wonder how they will handle the loss of $$ from tourism.....who wants to go to paris now?


65 posted on 11/04/2005 8:26:36 AM PST by tioga
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Commentary of this sort will not be appearing in any sort of the MSM. They wouldn't want everybody to know that their favorie country has failed miserably at answering the Muslim Question.


70 posted on 11/04/2005 8:33:33 AM PST by desherwood7
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The frogs better stand up and put down this insurrection fast. If Muslims gain control of the government and their multitude of nuclear facilities, then this will become our, and the whole world's problem.


84 posted on 11/04/2005 9:27:52 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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Heh... I'm guessing that Turkey will beat France in that, but only by a few years. I'd hate to see it of course, but I'd not be tremendously surprised if effectively independent states within France are permitted to impose sharia on immigrant population, just to quell the riots. Charles Martel died a long time ago.
One is tempted to suggest that Prime Minister Sharon send a note cautioning Monsieur Chirac about cycles of violence.
Ah, but that wouldn't be apropos -- the French aren't concerned when Jews in France are murdered, maimed, massacred, or merely hassled in France, because they are not considered French citizens by French politicians.
Back in the 1990s, the French sneered at America for the Los Angeles riots. As the Chicago Sun-Times reported in 1992: "the consensus of French pundits is that something on the scale of the Los Angeles riots could not happen here, mainly because France is a more humane, less racist place with a much stronger commitment to social welfare programs." President Mitterrand, the Washington Post reported in 1992, blamed the riots on the "conservative society" that Presidents Reagan and Bush had created and said France is different because it "is the country where the level of social protection is the highest in the world."
The LA riots happened because Rodney King got a little boo-boo for resisting arrest during a stop for DUI; it was a great excuse for burning down the laundrymats, grocery stores, and their own homes. That'll teach everyone a lesson. ;')
89 posted on 11/04/2005 10:11:47 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Wednesday, November 2, 2005.)
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Crap, Intifada in Europe.


91 posted on 11/04/2005 10:18:07 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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History repeats-This is reminiscent of "Kristallnacht" in 1938 Germany.


94 posted on 11/04/2005 10:32:40 AM PST by TracyPA
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the story, which is just starting to grip the world's attention

Why would that be, eight days after it began?

President Mitterrand, the Washington Post reported in 1992, blamed the riots on the "conservative society" that Presidents Reagan and Bush had created and said France is different because it "is the country where the level of social protection is the highest in the world."

Sorry, I can't help but laugh.

96 posted on 11/04/2005 10:41:41 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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No problem if a few cars and trucks get burnt up. That makes it easier for us frogs to Bar Hop in Gay Parie!



119 posted on 11/04/2005 1:28:41 PM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM pseudo reporters use "could, may, and might" when they are lying and spinning.)
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...France is on its way to becoming a Muslim country (one that would, let it be noted, be armed with hydrogen bombs).

And that's why my Schadenfreude is tempered.

121 posted on 11/04/2005 1:57:17 PM PST by Sometimes A River (One Man gathers what another Man spills)
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One is tempted to suggest that Prime Minister Sharon send a note cautioning Monsieur Chirac about cycles of violence.

I love that shot.

126 posted on 11/04/2005 5:47:52 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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Again, have I got this straight ... two criminals hide themselves in high voltage digs and got dead, so the 'rational' Islamicists are burning down France? Yeah, sounds about typical for that breed of fanatics. where's the eightball when it's needed?
130 posted on 11/04/2005 9:28:00 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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Suppose they are rioting because of Bush and that's fanning the worldwide upsurgenece of Islamofascism, I say great let's get it on sooner is better than later. Don't let them get any stronger...


132 posted on 11/05/2005 4:46:42 AM PST by databoss (WMD's, Syria and North Korea...)
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