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Did 'revoked' living willkill communicative man?
WorldNetDaily ^ | November 4, 2005 | Diana Lynne

Posted on 11/04/2005 3:24:09 AM PST by 8mmMauser

Family members are investigating what they consider to be suspicious circumstances surrounding the death of a nursing home patient at the center of a life and death tug-of-war reminiscent of the Terri Schiavo tragedy.

Seventy-nine-year-old Jimmy Chambers died in the early morning hours of Oct. 24 after the tracheotomy tubes that deliver oxygen from a ventilator to a hole in his neck became unhooked. Family members were told Chambers, a resident of the Anne Maria Rehabilitation and Nursing Center in North Augusta, S.C., apparently pulled the interlocking tubes apart.

"We're having it investigated. We're just incredulous," Chambers' daughter, Deanna Potter, told WND in reference to her siblings. "The last time I saw dad he was blowing me a kiss. I blew him one and he blew one back."

The retired dispatcher for Holland Motor Express died approximately 10 hours later. His death certificate indicates he died of "natural causes."

"Apparently, suffocation is a 'natural cause' when you're on a ventilator. We're contesting that," said Potter. "He suffocated. He didn't just pass away. He struggled and fought. And I'm just so angry."

Potter estimates it would have taken 10 to 14 minutes for her father, deprived of oxygen, to fall unconscious, and questions why the nursing home staff didn't come to his aid.

"The oxygen-saturation meter and his ventilator both would have had alarms going off. Four-thirty, five o'clock in the morning you'd think someone would hear this," she added. "That's the thing that really bothers me and makes me suspicious."

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To: 8mmMauser

An excellent article! It is a must-read! Is there a FR thread on it, or did you come across it on your own?


81 posted on 11/07/2005 5:54:16 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Thanks. I did a search this morning on Google and this had just come out. Nice coincidence. Might be well worth a thread on its own. Has been out five hours.

8mm


82 posted on 11/07/2005 5:57:50 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

Glad you pinged me to that article. I meant to read it a couple of days ago.

That little girl has had one messed up life. Who in her family can comfort her, and get her to respond? They're vermin. Well I'm going to say that they should keep the IV's and the feeding tube in, and disconnect the ventilator. It would be great if someone could be there encouraging her to fight, but it would have to be a teacher she knows, or a neighbor.

I don't know...


83 posted on 11/07/2005 6:06:38 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: 8mmMauser; Jim Noble

Good but disheartening article about living wills. How about a medical power of attorney?

I printed out two copies of the "will to live", but haven't gone over it yet. Would a medical power of attorney, naming someone who is not my legal next of kin, be good enough? I have personal reasons for excluding my oldest daughter.


84 posted on 11/07/2005 6:57:41 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Durable power of attorney (DPOA) for healthcare is much, much better.

It gives your trusted DPOA the right to make decisions instead of you.

Depending on your level of paranoia, it is probably not a good idea to use an heir.

The other missing ingredient, that everyone must have, is a doctor who is working for YOU, rather than the government or an insurance company.

85 posted on 11/07/2005 7:05:04 AM PST by Jim Noble (Non, je ne regrette rien)
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To: mtbopfuyn

What can one say, you ask? It's about the money!


86 posted on 11/07/2005 7:50:57 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Jim Noble

We had a doctor for ten years, before I got divorced. This guy is great, and still practices up here, but I'm not his patient. Could I name him? I don't have medical insurance, but I still use the group. There's the one lady, who is a nurse practioner that I've been seeing, too.

My level of paranoia is on high alert. There's money involved.


87 posted on 11/07/2005 8:05:21 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Physicians cannot ordinarily serve as DPOA for patients.

Your own doctor never should - he has a different job.

88 posted on 11/07/2005 8:12:47 AM PST by Jim Noble (Non, je ne regrette rien)
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To: 8mmMauser; amdgmary; All; Wampus SC
From The Florida Masochist blog. You have to be a masochist to live in Florida, etc.

Re: Sarasota Hospice wants to put clown statues all over Sarasota county. Clowns=Hospice? Is the Sarasota Hospice trying to improve their image or further their AGENDA with scary clowns? Don't be afraid when we take your food and water away. Don't worry be happy? The CULTURE OF DEATH USING CLOWNS TO DOWNPLAY WHAT THEY ARE REALLY DOING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS?

Excerpt from Miami Herald: ''The clown phobia thing is huge, I had no idea. There are people who just plum hate the images of clowns,'' said Virginia Hoffman, a sculptor and chair of Sarasota's Public Art Committee. ``I'm concerned about fallout. What if there are protests by clowns haters, or people who want to vandalize clown statues?''

FV says: Poor clown statues. But where was the outrage when a human being was being vandalized by the Starvation State of Florida???

89 posted on 11/07/2005 8:28:21 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.tg2006.com Tom Gallagher (R) for Fla Governor (Fla's Only Pro-Life Candidate))
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To: TheSpottedOwl

FYI: Gas yesterday in Tampa Bay was $2.29. I filled up the tank.


90 posted on 11/07/2005 8:29:31 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.tg2006.com Tom Gallagher (R) for Fla Governor (Fla's Only Pro-Life Candidate))
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To: floriduh voter

Clowns give me the willies anyway. Oh yes, Willie Jeff Clinton was a clown of sorts, too, still is.

Even when I was little clowns bothered me because I thought bad people were hiding behind that mask.

8mm


91 posted on 11/07/2005 8:34:57 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: MontanaBeth

If that Nursing Home pulled his tube that is murder. If he accidentally pulled his own tube and none of the nurses came to aid him that is murder!


92 posted on 11/07/2005 8:35:49 AM PST by Halls (TEXANS - VOTE NOV 8TH FOR PROPOSITION 2 - THE MARRIAGE PROTECTION AMENDMENT)
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To: 8mmMauser
BAD Hospices look like this.

People best learn to do comparison shopping of hospices or they could end up checking out before their time. Visit www.hospicepatients.org

93 posted on 11/07/2005 8:37:21 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.tg2006.com Tom Gallagher (R) for Fla Governor (Fla's Only Pro-Life Candidate))
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To: Halls; Lesforlife; russesjunjee; Ohioan from Florida; Republic; amdgmary
But for the failures and deeds of many, Terri would be alive today.

This is the NOVEMBER TERRI DAILIES THREAD, a digest of daily news re: euthanasia, directives, judges, politicians, new cases, initiatives, the spiritual element. God bless Terri Schiavo and the Schindlers.

(Terri HAD NO LIVING WILL but the state of Fla sponsored her murder anyway. It can work for you or against you to have a living will.)

94 posted on 11/07/2005 8:48:33 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.tg2006.com Tom Gallagher (R) for Fla Governor (Fla's Only Pro-Life Candidate))
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To: tutstar; cyn; russesjunjee

Others: 1. Baby Charlotte is alive. 2. Senior Mae died of natural causes but was not exited out. 3. Scott Thomas is still alive 4. Jimmy Chambers (he is with God). 4. Sara Scandlin woke up after twenty years. She's glad to be alive. 5. A fireman whose name escapes me woke up after a long coma. 6. 200 Katrina related deaths in Louisiana area being investigated. Louisiana's Attorney General is doing his job (not like Florida's AG Crist who gave Judge Greer and Judge Whittemore PRAISE for killing Terri).


95 posted on 11/07/2005 8:53:23 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.tg2006.com Tom Gallagher (R) for Fla Governor (Fla's Only Pro-Life Candidate))
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To: Ohioan from Florida
Drug out the patient and when the family drops by to visit, the staff says that the patient is "failing and has stopped eating." Many times, the patients stops eating because they are so drugged that they are rendered incompetent by being drugged out. They don't stop eating because they wanted to.

It's easy to make someone look like they are failing if you pump enough drugs into their system which takes away the appetite and they become weak. This could happen to anybody. It's the death care system and we better beware.

96 posted on 11/07/2005 8:55:43 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.tg2006.com Tom Gallagher (R) for Fla Governor (Fla's Only Pro-Life Candidate))
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To: Salvation; NYer; nickcarraway

FYI: Justice for Terri November Dailies.


97 posted on 11/07/2005 9:11:05 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.tg2006.com Tom Gallagher (R) for Fla Governor (Fla's Only Pro-Life Candidate))
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To: floriduh voter

that is why I'm so greatful for the Hospice care my grandfather had. It was a non full time visiting hospice where the family took most of the care and they came and went checking in, giving meds, making my grandfather comfortable. With my mom and my Aunt my grandfather was taken care of, but those Hospice workers really were kind and helpful. I can't imagine a Hopsice where they deny people food and water who are still conscious!!


98 posted on 11/07/2005 10:06:33 AM PST by Halls (TEXANS - VOTE NOV 8TH FOR PROPOSITION 2 - THE MARRIAGE PROTECTION AMENDMENT)
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To: Halls
Hospice Woodside was being commandeered by the Pinellas Cty Sheriff's Office, the Pinellas Park PD and by Judge Greer. Imagine having to show picture ID at a checkpoint to go see your loved one. IMAGINE! To watch the state of Florida torture your innocent loved one, showing your i.d. first. FOR SHAME!

The toll free number for congress to federalize a ban on starving & dehydrating when there's absolutely no directive, or maybe even if there's a directive but the person changed their mind. Congress & the President's numbers at www.conservative-spirit.org.

99 posted on 11/07/2005 10:11:46 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.tg2006.com Tom Gallagher (R) for Fla Governor (Fla's Only Pro-Life Candidate))
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To: nickcarraway

It's open season and we cannot even trust legislators or the judiciary, not on this issue!


100 posted on 11/07/2005 10:13:02 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.tg2006.com Tom Gallagher (R) for Fla Governor (Fla's Only Pro-Life Candidate))
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